Wednesday, February 07, 2007

Doug Thompsons' Rant

Out of control and beyond reality


Let’s face the sad truth. The United States of America is a nation out of control, spiraling downward at an alarming rate, controlled by a cabal of manipulative political hacks who put their own greed and lust for power above the best interests of a beleaguered country.

At a hearing on Capitol Hill Tuesday, we learned the Federal Reserve, under orders from The White House, loaded 363 tons of cash — $4 billion - on palettes and shipped it by military cargo planes to Baghdad just before we turned control of the government over to a group of political leaders who are just as corrupt as the ruling classes here at home.

Who, in their right mind, ships $4 billion in cash to a war zone? The same idiots who can’t account for at least $8 billion in funds already sent into Iraq for a so-called reconstruction effort that leaves most Iraqis without power, water or other amenities of life.

The Associated Press reports today that the last four months of President George W. Bush’s illegal and immoral war have been the deadliest of the conflict, killing 334. Pentagon planners warn the President that his ill-conceived “troop surge” will cause a surge in American casualties that could lead to 10,000 dead by the end of 2008.

In a courtroom in Alexandria, Virginia, a tawdry tale of media manipulation by a compulsively-obsessive Presidential administration unfolds through testimony in the perjury trial of former Vice Presidential Chief of Staff Lewis “Scooter” Libby.

We’ve learned how the President and Vice President secretly declassified documents and leaked them selectively to the press to try and perpetuate their lies that were used to justify the invasion of Iraq. Yet this same administration tried to jail others who leaked information.

On Capitol Hill, things aren’t any better. The Senate continues to debate whether or not to have a debate on a “nonbinding” resolution on Bush’s troop surge. And while they jawbone, more and more Americans die.

So far, the mandate that American voters delivered at the polls in last November’s mid-term election has been ignored by politically-timid politicians on both sides of the aisle. The new Democratic leadership of Congress lacks the guts to do what must be done to stop a despotic President and return control of government to the people.

If you look at the pitiful crop of Presidential wannabes from both parties you find the list dominated by eunuchs who lack the balls to deliver on what voters demanded last November.

The leading candidates on both sides voted for the war and refuse to call for a swift end to the conflict. Sen. Barack Obama is the closet thing we have to an anti-war candidate in the top tier but his pop-culture appeal will fade in the long run because although we don’t like to admit it, America is still a racist nation dominated by white bread leaders.

And just when you thought things couldn’t get any worse, the “news story” that dominated Tuesday’s headlines dealt not with Iraq, or Congress, or even the criminal actions of the Bush Administration.

Nah. The top story centered on a lovesick astronaut who drove from Houston to Orlando to kidnap and possibly kill her rival for another astronaut’s affections.

In fact, Lisa Marie Nowak, who has flown into orbit on the Space Shuttle, wore a diaper so she wouldn’t have to stop on the long drive.

This highway leads to the shadowy tip of reality: you’re on a through route to the land of the different, the bizarre, the unexplainable…Go as far as you like on this road. Its limits are only those of mind itself. Ladies and Gentlemen, you’re entering the wondrous dimension of imagination. Next stop….The Twilight Zone.”*

(*This opening to the TV series, The Twilight Zone, was written by Rod Serling for the final season but never used.)

Reprinted from Capitol Hill Blue


DEN said...

I reprinted Dougs article today due to me being burned out by the insanity and stupidity taking place in our once grand nation.

334 dead troops was the report today October to the end of January.

When will there be an end to this seemingly perpetual insanity from the worthless so-called president and his gang of neo-con death cult cronies?

Micki said...

Doug Thompson left out this important story -- Teg Haggard is "completely heterosexual"

AND NOW....!!! The good pastor has a new DVD ready to go!

"Call now to order your copy of the DVD "Jesus Washed Away My Filthy Faggoticity and Put Me Back Together Again" by Ted Haggard, pastor of the South Elk Breath, Wyoming, New Life Church of God! Call now! The first 100 callers will also received at no additional cost this ball point pen hand carved from the actual wood of the cross where Jesus died, and it glows in the dark, in 12 religious colors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Saladin said...

Computer Tips and Privacy

DEN, some helpful hints from Lew Rockwell. He LOVES Firefox!

Also, My post on the last thread addressing the pelosi article.

DEN said...

Sal, yes I saw your post from the other post. I goes to what I believe to be media manipulation to insure the truth is ever so much more difficult to find.


DEN said...

Sal, that stuff is cool and a recommended read for all Firefox users.


Micki said...


Micki said...

Legal term

JUSTICE: A decision in your favor.

DEN said...


Micki said...

U.S. Military Says Copter Down in Iraq

The Associated Press
Wednesday, February 7, 2007; 11:30 AM

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- A Sea Knight helicopter crashed Wednesday northwest of Baghdad, sending flames and black smoke into the sky, the fifth chopper lost in Iraq in just over two weeks. The U.S. military believes all seven people aboard a CH-46 helicopter that crashed in Iraq on Wednesday were killed, and indications are that it was not hit by hostile fire, a senior U.S. defense official said.

However, an Iraqi air force officer said it was downed by an anti-aircraft missile, and the al-Qaida-linked Sunni group claimed responsibility for the attack and said it would later issue a video of the helicopter's downing.

The U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still under way, said the helicopter went down between Baghdad and Fallujah and that the crash appeared to have been related to mechanical problems.

The helicopter was operated by Marines, and other Marine aircraft were in visual contact at the time it went down, the U.S. official said. He said he did not know whether a distress signal was communicated by radio.

Micki said...


Main Entry: [1]oh
Pronunciation: (')O
Function: interjection
Etymology: Middle English o
Date: 13th century
1 : — used to express an emotion (as surprise or desire) or in response to physical stimuli
2 : — used in direct address "oh, waiter! Will you come here, please?"
3 : — used to express acknowledgment or understanding of a statement
4 : — used to introduce an example or approximation

DEN said...


DEN said...

Seems the Israelis can exercise control over Palestinians here in the US with impunity using our Justice Dept. to do so. Why else would this case have legs?

Sami Al-Arian has been in prison for the past four years. The Palestinian professor and activist was found not guilty over a year ago of 17 charges against him yet he remains in jail and the US government seems unwilling to release him. Al-Arian’s case has been one of the most closely watched – and controversial – post 9/11 prosecutions in the United States. A respected computer science professor at the University of South Florida, Al-Arian was a leading member of the Muslim community and one of the most prominent Palestinian academics and activists in the US. In February 2003, he was arrested and accused of being a leader of the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The Justice Department handed down a sweeping 50-count indictment against him and seven other men, charging them with conspiracy to commit murder, giving material support to terrorists, extortion, perjury, and other offenses.

At the end of the trial in December 2005, the jury failed to return a single guilty verdict. Al Arian was acquitted on eight of seventeen counts against him and the jury deadlocked on the rest. Four months after the verdict, he agreed to plead guilty to one of the remaining charges in exchange for being released and deported. At his sentencing, the judge gave Al-Arian as much prison time as possible under a plea deal - 57 months. His release date was set for April 2007. ? But just over two weeks ago, a judge found him in contempt for refusing a second time to testify before a grand jury in Virginia in a case involving a Muslim think tank. The date of his release could now be extended by as much as 18 months because of the ruling. Al-Arian, who is a diabetic, began a hunger strike in response.

Transcript at Democracy Now.

Alan said...

So, how many programs are running in the background for you guys to use Firefox... 15 or 20?
I didn't count. You know that slows you down, right?

Thanks, but no thanks.

Micki said...

Urgent: Climate Wake Up Call!

This site is worth a look.

DEN said...

Alan, what in the world are you talking about?

Carey said...

Three weeks and he's cured. Bawhahaha! Loved the DVD stuff Micki.

I rushed on to let you know some campaign gossip. Lawrence O'Donnell says that Giuliani has hired icky Bushies and politicos of the Swift Boat variety to hash his way to the top.

What do you think McCain has done? In six months, Giuliani, with his background, will be in shreds. Giuliani has soooo much crappy background, my God. Where did he get the idea he could run for Prez? O'Donnell's prediction: The New York Times will be running "Whitewater" stories on Giuliani in six months.

Clinton will be in shreds too. The campaign has begun too early I keep telling anyone who will listen.


Just write, "Hi. Burned out today." We'll always take it from there. You know us.

You don't understand Micki when she says "OH"? I sure as heck do.

DEN said...

Carey, I have a difficult time with innuendo, should be illegal, don't play games, I hate games, they are for kids not adults.

This isn't a kindergarten world, got something to say, say it, if it is potentially divisive, stow it.

Alan said...

Alan, what in the world are you talking about?

That article 'what's her name' posted about Firefox. Did you read it? It listed all the add-ons you should get... with features and/or filters that each click goes through.

DEN said...

Alan, yes I read it but I cannot find the background programs you mentioned.

Maybe you consider the Firefox add-on background programs?

Seems with the ads running there are quite a few things running to load the ads, is that what you meant?

I should have stayed home today, it is waaay too confusing here.

My mind can handle complex processes but I am lousy at trying to figger the simple crap. Double DUH!

Carey said...


I think that's exactly what Micki's doing, the stowing part, for your benefit. She is not playing games. She's being circumspect and wise.

From yesterday's thread:


I'm a little worried about you. You're getting that depressy feeling. You're such a compassionate person. Meanwhile, your answers and responses to Gerald were magnificent. Yes, we all care for human life. But if we can prevent a horrible life for someone, isn't that also doing good work in a way?

Take care of yourself Den. Get ahold of some green (not money). Part of the reason you're experiencing deep frustration is the stoppage of debate in Congress right now with politics being played full tilt. It's enough to disgust a dog.

You too Gerald, take care of yourself. You have much so look forward to right now!


My sister and I have been discussing Al Franken. We're rather pissed he gave up his Air America show because it was the only show on the station that had a rather high degree of intellectuality. He didn't take the call-ins and let just anyone rant and rant. That he is running and he is definitely, is a good thing, however. Are Minnesotans ready for Franken? I mean, after Coleman?

By the way, how's the job search going?


I don't think we'll be taxed out of existence. I know how strongly you feel against taxes. That's part of your framework of thought which is thoroughly rigorous. My point was that we have to start somewhere to stop carbon burning. WE JUST HAVE TO. A carbon tax would be a burden to many factors in society, not just one. All in all, I'd call it a fair and productive tax.

Please don't even raise the spectre of Lieberman. What a damn fraud! Den's rant against him yesterday was so well-placed. Don't you all just want to go up and sock him telling him to get out of the party?? A tax for the war on terror. Go park and die somewhere. What a freak out of a person.


Dan Burton (R-IN) (isn't he the one who shot watermelons in his backyard to demonstrate to reporters that Vince Foster didn't commit suicide??)

You had me spitting out my coffee in laughter. Yes, Burton is the one and same total jerk. He and Dick Armey were assholes during the Clinton debacle. It was a machine, as Hillary says, it was a right-wing conspiracy.


I read an interesting article on Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun, in which he claims he is an agnostic of what happened with 9/11. What he means is that he's skeptical and we don't know the whole story. It could have been a lower government conspiracy etc.

But Israel, of course, had nothing to do with it.

Alan said...

Each to his own, I guess. For me, IE-7 works quite well. I like the tabbed browsing that 6 didn't have. I use McAfee anti-virus (free with AOL... along with their spyware and software firewall), Ad-Aware SE is used after almost all long surfing sessions, and my cable modem goes through a router (hardware firewall)... plus the software firewall that comes with Windows XP.
I never have any probs and since I don't do anything illegal, I have no reason to worry about the NSA or whoever...
I think (but I'm not an expert by any means) the more filters and programs like encription you have running at the same time in your browser just slows each step down.

Alan said...

Correct me if I'm wrong but... if Lierberman was kicked out of the Dems caucus, or leaves on his own... there goes the Dem's majority. We have to keep that azzwipe.

Alan said...

Ok, Russert's up at FireDogLake. I've been waiting for awhile since the end of the Libby tapes. This guy blogging isn't as good as Marcy, but still...
Check in wif y'all later. <=== that's why I don't use a spell checker... I couldn't type like I talk, in the southern drawlllll

DEN said...

Carey and Micki, sorry if I am being THICK here but I can't see through the innuendo very well.(girl thing)

I do appreciate civility as opposed to discourse and as such appreciate the lack of mudslinging on posters parts, maybe thats what was meant.

Carey said...

Exactly sweetie

Don Williams is so right on. This Bremer thing, his testifying before Congress, has angered alot of people rightfully.

Yesterday on Hardball Matthews tried to get the author of Emerald City (you all know who he is, his name is too long to learn to spell) who wrote that devastating expose of just what the Coalition Provisional Authority had done. Hubris also gets into that. Bremer is a bad, bad criminal, the architect of neoconism in Iraq.

Here's an apropos quote for Den:

Quote of the Day

On the Senate floor a few moments ago, Jon Tester said that he's traveled all around his home state of Montana, and "not a single person told me we should debate about whether or not to have a debate on Iraq."

And a cheer up joke:

Just because someone doesn't love you the way you want them to, doesn't
>mean they don't love you with all they have.
>Jim and Edna were both patients in a mental hospital. One day while they
>were walking past the hospital swimming pool, Jim suddenly jumped into the
>deep end. He sank to the bottom of the pool and stayed there.
> Edna promptly jumped in to save him. She swam to the bottom and pulled
>Jim out.
> When the Head Nurse Director became aware of Edna's heroic act, she
>immediately ordered her to be discharged from the hospital, as she now
>considered her to be mentally stable.
> When she went to tell Edna the news she said, "Edna, I have good news
>and bad news. The good news is you're being discharged; since you were able
>to rationally respond to a crisis by jumping in and saving the life of
>another patient, I have concluded that your act displays sound mindedness.
>The bad news is, Jim, the patient you saved, hung himself in the bathroom
>with his bathrobe belt right after you saved him. I am so sorry, but he's
> Edna replied, "He didn't hang himself, I put him there to dry. How
>soon can I go home?"

Carey said...

I must have skipped over Micki's definition of "justice".

Another bawhahaha.* You're a bit on today aren't you? Go for it Micksters (Brandonese).

*Term stolen from Carol.

Carey said...

Well shoot. Here I go adding to the depressive winds gathering.

Another U.S. copter down; are we securing Baghad yet?

A U.S. helicopter went down north of Baghdad this morning, and military officials believe all seven people aboard it were killed. Insurgents are claiming responsibility for shooting down the CH-46 Sea Knight, and an Iraqi air force official says that he heard an antiaircraft missile being fired just before the helicopter "turned into a ball of fire."

The U.S. military is still investigating, and a senior U.S. defense official tells the AP that indications are that the helicopter was not shot down. Maybe that's right, but the military has been less than forthcoming about U.S. casualties before, and it certainly would be embarrassing for it to acknowledge that another helicopter has been shot down -- especially after announcing over the weekend that it had changed its tactics following the downing of four other U.S. copters in recent weeks.

And of course, it's also possible that the senior defense official who talked to the AP doesn't actually know what's happening at the wreckage scene north of Baghdad. After all, it seems that defense officials in Washington and Baghdad can't even agree on whether the campaign to secure Iraq's capital has begun yet.

As we noted earlier today, Defense Secretary Robert Gates told the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday that the U.S.-Iraqi military campaign to secure Baghdad was supposed to have started Monday but hasn't yet. "It's probably going to slip a few days," he said, "and it's probably going to be a rolling implementation." But in Bagdad today, U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said that "there's no start date per se" for the operation. "The plan is being fully implemented as we speak," he said, even as he cautioned that "not all aspects are in place at this point."


On the start date: God, who cares about the start date? Of course, it's going to be rolling. Jeez the press with their horserace mentality (poll reporting).

This bad news is the norm now as Den sadly pointed out.

DEN said...

Carey, stuff might be depressing for me but the troops are facing death over there and PTSD and DU poisoning.

I'm trying to keep my perspective.

Damn, I need a vacation, too bad $3000 (don't have)worth of dental work comes first, AAARRRGGGHH!!

I owe,I owe, off to work I go.

Carey said...

Now you know your mom was right when she hounded you to brush your teeth.

This was splashed across the front page of The San Diego Union this morning. It has to do with the critical issue of the Justice Dept. utilizing a small change in the Patriot Act to dominate local U.S. District Attorney appointments.

Something happened last night that relates to this. I got a phone call from Brian Bilbray's office in which a tape invited me to join a "townhall meeting" via phone. The discussion was on immigration issues. Well, duh, I'm not going to participate in anything Bilbray's hands are on. (Ass who took over Randy Cunningham's seat.) What it did tell me was that immigration as a talking point is heating up behind the scenes.

Now this: Things are too, too political in Washington to get anything, I mean anything done. Not good.

Lawmakers' Letters Led to Lam's Ouster

“I have observed, with increasing alarm, how politicized the Department of Justice has become,” Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said at the start of the hearing. “I have watched, with growing worry, as the department has increasingly based hiring on political affiliation.”

Schumer noted that Lam “was in the midst of a sweeping public investigation,” referring to the probe of former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham, R-Rancho Santa Fe, and others. Cunningham is in prison after pleading guilty to conspiracy and tax evasion charges, but investigations are pending for several co-conspirators...

....“Was her firing political retaliation? There's no way to know that,” Schumer said. But he said he assumed that “politics is involved. The appearance is plain awful.”


Micki and Dr. B,

What is this law being proposed in your state, married couples must have children? Say what? A Republican ploy like changing the discussion from debate on Iraq to cutting the funds for soldiers in the Gregg amendment.

Gerald said...

micki, from the previous thread Dan Burton, a Nazi, sat in on meetings and attacked Clinton during his time in office. For Americans with short memories Burton is a scumbag.

Gerald said...

We need to look at our country as a family and a household. You prioritize your wants but always take care of your needs. Like little children we want to play with video games, aka WARS, but these video games are too expensive so we see to it that we have medical care, shelter, and food over video games. Hitler Bush as a member of our family is a spoiled brat so he lied to his family and household about the importance of these video games. Now our family is out in the street begging for medical care, shelter, and food.

DEN said...

Mom never told me that, what is this toothbrush of which you speak?

I just use the paste. Mom said I was not supposed to eat paste though, just chew and spit she said.

Gerald said...

Attacking Iran!!!

Gerald said...

Asshole Joe

The rich should be taxed to protect their lifestyles!!!!!!!!!!

Carey said...


Interesting metaphor. W. is certainly a horribly spoiled child. Remember, he ran in 2000 on being able to manage an effective, well-run business of a government. Yeah, right. Like he had credentials in his resume?

Here's a little tasty for ya Den and Gerald (and all),

I preface this link with an apology. It's not going to make you feel any better.

The Criminalization of U.S. Foreign Policy

From the Truman Doctrine to the Neo-Conservatives

At no point since the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima on August 6th, 1945, has humanity been closer to the unthinkable, a nuclear holocaust which could potentially spread, in terms of radioactive fallout, over a large part of the Middle East.

There is mounting evidence that the Bush Administration, in liaison with Israel and NATO, is planning the launching of a nuclear war against Iran, ironically, in retaliation for Tehran's nonexistent nuclear weapons program. The US-Israeli military operation is said to be in "an advanced state of readiness"....

...If such a plan were to be launched, the war would escalate and eventually engulf the entire Middle-East Central Asian region...

The Ultimate War Crime: Using Nuclear Weapons in a Conventional War theater

Despite Pentagon statements, which describe tactical nuclear weapons as "safe for the surrounding civilian population", the use of nukes in a conventional war theater directed against Iran would trigger the ultimate war crime: a nuclear holocaust. The resulting radioactive contamination, which threatens future generations, would by no means be limited to the Middle East.

Gerald said...

Bush is totally mad

Micki said...

Is saying, "Oh" playing games?

Is saying, "Oh" an innuendo?

Den, what on earth are you implying?

Gerald said...

This post is for all the mothers and grandmothers. Picture the use of nuclear weapons in a conventional war! Picture the vaporized flesh, toes, and fingers of tiny babies on the streets of Iran and on her buildings that may still be standing. Endless vaporized human flesh everywhere!

Well, mothers and grandmothers, do you see these vaporized bodies as a glorious Nazi American experience?

Gerald said...

Picture these human beings, aka our brothers and sisters

Micki said...

Carey, yes, it does seem absurd, doesn't it? And, I have to admit, Initiative 957 has the potential of backfiring because a lot of people just don't quite get it. It's convoluted.

The initiative's sponsors say there is a rational basis for this absurdity. By floating the initiative(s) (there are three of them), they hope to prompt discussion about the many misguided assumptions which make up the Andersen v. King ruling here in Washington State -- the state supreme court, in its ruling upholding the ban on gay marriage, said (in part) that the purpose of marriage is "procreation" which can only be accomplished with opposite sex couples.

The initiative sponsors seek to defend equal marriage in this state by challenging the Washington Supreme Court’s ruling on Andersen v. King County. This decision, given in July 2006, declared that a “legitimate state interest” allows the Legislature to limit marriage to those couples able to have and raise children together. Because of this “legitimate state interest,” it is permissible to bar same-sex couples from legal marriage.

In a nutshell the Initiative sponsors are saying that if opposite sex couples marry and don't have children within three years, their marriage should be annulled because they have not fulfiled their duty to the "legitimate state interest" of procreating.

You might say, "Oh!" at this point. ;-)

Gerald said...

Who is taking the money?

Let's have a terrorism tax to squander away human lives and money!

Do you sense that a poker is being rammed up your rectum by the Nazi cabal?

DEN said...

Micki, I certainly do not know what I am implying, I am merely trying to determine the use of "Oh" as a post.

I'm just trying to understand what is going on and innuendo was the only thing I could imagine, so I elaborated.

This day is certainly down the tubes, for me anyway.
I give up!!!

Carry on!!

David B. Benson said...

Micki --- Oh! :-)

Gerald said...

There is no doubt about America's moral degradation

Micki said...

Dr. B -- your post sounds subversive. Or maybe it's just in the way I read that word. ;-)

Gerald said...

Bush's Budget Priorities

David B. Benson said...

Micki --- Oh.

Gerald said...

Bush’s budget would give people with incomes of more than $1 million an average tax cut of $162,000 a year by 2012, while those in the middle fifth of the income scale would get a mere $840 a year, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. Here’s another way of looking at the lopsided distribution of tax benefits: The top 1 percent would enjoy 31 percent of the tax cuts, the bottom 40 percent just 4 percent, the center points out.

That’s redistribution of income, from bottom to top.

DEN said...


Carey said...

I knew that "Oh" thing would come up. Sometimes I find things so funny, all the different treatments of the word, "oh".


Yeah, we haven't even brought up the budget fiasco. It's so out there, it's hardly worth discussing. At least: It better be out there.

Okay, now back to what I was trying ot post when my computer decided to go offline.


That's a wonderful and profoundly saddening article in I sent it off to family telling them this is now inevitable and to prepare mentally. Don't the possible consequences sound familiar? (Pre-Iraq warnings.)

From Gerald's link "Attacking Iran!!":

War would curtail the great influence of the religious Right in Washington. Christian fundamentalists are the backbone of support for continuing wars and chaos in the Middle East (see Armageddon Lobby).* Their power would finally backfire as more Americans become wary of leaders who claim a direct line to God. The fundamentalists' passion for war, callousness towards the death of foreigners, fear and (almost total) ignorance of the outside world, and unstinting support for police state measures out of Washington have already discredited them among many Americans. Their fomenting another war would be a final blow.

*My asterisk. This possible consequence got me thinking of this ideological sidebar. An excellent definition below.

Armageddon Lobby --trying to hurry up God

With the collapse of communism (and Nazism before it) mankind's utopian fantasies have returned to a religious hue. The Armageddonites (and their co-believer extreme fundamentalists in the Muslim and Jewish worlds) are the new dreamers of bringing paradise to earth, just, however, with the need to eliminate much of the human race first. In America we have now this strange alliance, the Israeli Likud settler lobby gets money, guns and political cover. In exchange millions of born again "rapture" evangelicals gain fulfillment, believing that they are helping God to end the world during their lifetimes and thereby will get a quick pass to heaven "without dying" (no judgment day). Oh, and with the death of all Jews (and the rest of the human race) who do not convert to their faith. Their "Heaven" incidentally, is sort of socialist with no inequality and everyone rich. A popular Gaither Singers song describes how one won't need to cut the grass in Heaven.
The Book of Revelations in the Bible, upon which they build their scenario, is also very controversial. It was made scripture three centuries after the death of Christ. "Traditionally attributed to St. John, most Biblical scholars now recognize its literary style and its theology has little in common with John's gospel or his epistles and was likely written after his death. Martin Luther found the vindictive God of Revelations incompatible with the gospels and relegated it to the appendix of his German translation of the New Testament instead of the body of scripture. All the Protestant reformers except Calvin regarded apocalyptic millenialism to be heresy."

Carey said...

This has started to bug me for some reason. We had an anonymous poster the other day signed or something like that. That name sounds so familiar. How do I know it?

DEN said...

Carey, looks like a bogus as in BAD to go to address, my browser looked at it very sceptically.

Popped up a warning.

Carey said...

You probably heard about this from somewhere today. I heard Donohue interviewed on "Tucker Carlson" earlier. Just happened to be walking by. Often keep the TV on a news channel or turn on Air America while I'm going through the house.

Donohue has never struck me as a likeable person. I will say that the right-wings bloggers mentioned are not partularly likeable either. I know nothing more than reported here--no facts.

Edwards campaign fires bloggers.

The right-wing blogosphere has gotten its scalps -- John Edwards has fired the two controversial bloggers he recently hired to do liberal blogger outreach, Salon has learned.

The bloggers, Amanda Marcotte, formerly of Pandagon, and Melissa McEwan, of Shakespeare's Sister, had come under fire from right-wing bloggers for statements they had previously made on their respective blogs. A statement by the Catholic League's Bill Donohue, which called Marcotte and McEwan "anti-Catholic vulgar trash-talking bigots," and an accompanying article on the controversy in the New York Times this morning, put extra pressure on the campaign.

Speculation from sources that the two bloggers might be rehired was bolstered by Jennifer Palmieri, a spokeswoman for the Edwards campaign, who said in an e-mail that she would "caution [Salon] against reporting that they have been fired. We will have something to say later."

This isn't the first Internet-related misstep for the Edwards campaign, which had been making an effort to reach out to the "netroots" but has found its popularity dropping in a straw poll done on the landmark liberal blog Daily Kos. Though he still leads the poll by one point over Sen. Barack Obama, Edwards' support has dropped nine points in the past three weeks. He has also come under fire in the liberal blogosphere for his statements on Iran and his campaign's failure to return the calls of supporters and press, and was embarrassed when his Web site mistakenly revealed his candidacy a day before his official announcement in New Orleans.

Leading the charge against Marcotte -- and to a lesser extent McEwan -- have been bloggers like the National Review's Kathryn Jean Lopez and Michelle Malkin. Malkin originally accused Marcotte of trying to scrub Pandagon's archives of material that could be embarrassing to the Edwards campaign. When that proved untrue, Malkin posted a correction, but said that the fact that she had been wrong was "even worse for the Edwards campaign" because "its blogmaster left crackpot posts like that one up and hired her anyway."

Malkin, it should be noted, is hardly innocent of being involved with what ABC News' Terry Moran termed "hate speech" when applied to Marcotte. Malkin has long maintained ties to VDARE, a Web site tagged as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center that has published works by people like Jared Taylor, one of America's leading white supremacists, and Sam Francis, who was fired by the conservative Washington Times for his own white supremacist remarks, given at a conference held by Taylor's organization. The liberal press watchdog Media Matters has also noted Donohue's long list of controversial statements.

-- Alex Koppelman and Rebecca Traister

David B. Benson said...

Carey --- Oh?

DEN said...


Carey said...

I thought this a mighty companion piece to the Armagghedon Lobby tidbit above.

This is long. Put it aside for later if need be. It is one thought-provoking interview with Chris Hedges by Robert Scheer and James Harris of Truthdig.

Chris Hedges: Christian Right War On America

[Chris]Hedges:... When this notion of a new political religion was first articulated in the early ’80s by people like Pat Robertson, the proponents of this were on the margins or fringes of American society. They’ve now moved into the corridors of power—into the House of Representatives, the Senate, the executive branch and the courts. And they’ve received under the Bush administration hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money. They’ve gone a long way toward setting up hermetic, closed indoctrination systems through Christian radio and television. They’ve brought the teaching of this mythology of creationism into public schools in places like Kansas. The advances that this movement has made in the last 20-25 years, is frightening. There’s no question that unless we begin to rectify the imbalances within this country, this will become the dominant political force. And it is a force in which all who do not subscribe to this narrow, frightening ideology—which bears many similarities with classical fascist movements—and all those who do not submit to these so-called Christian leaders, will at best become second-class citizens.

DEN said...

OH, K, I give up!!

I'm outa here!

Carry on!

Micki said...

Oh, oh.

The court-martial of First Lt. Ehren Watada, a commissioned US Army officer who refused deployment to Iraq on the basis that he believed the war was illegal, has ended in a mistrial, a military court judge ruled Wednesday.

Carey said...


I don't know what to think about the judge in the Watada trial. Not enough information. I had heard it was headed for a mistrial.

I told you all Israel was heating up. Now Olmert's speaks of the holocaust in relation to Iran, banging his drums loud and clear. I believe the all-around wardance is well under way.

Shooting Erupts on the Israel/Lebanon Border

BEIRUT, Lebanon - Lebanese troops deployed along the border with Israel opened fire late Wednesday as Israeli troops searched for Hezbollah bombs, drawing retaliatory fire, officials from both sides said.

From the editors at What Really Happened:

The Lebanon war began last summer when two Israeli soldiers crossed the border into Lebanon. In the weeks that followed, the media tried to spin the story that the two Israelis had been captured by a Lebanese force which had crossed into Israel, but a quick look at any map of the region shows that Aitaa al-Chaab, the town where the capture occurred, is well within Lebanon.

This looks to be a similar provocation. Expect the story about the bulldozer crossing into Lebanon to "go away."

Micki said...

From the Wonderful Folks Who Brought you Iraq

Vanity Fair....

The same neocon ideologues behind the Iraq war have been using the same tactics—alliances with shady exiles, dubious intelligence on W.M.D.—to push for the bombing of Iran. As President Bush ups the pressure on Tehran, is he planning to double his Middle East bet?

David B. Benson said...

Micki --- O!

Gerald said...

The Book of Revelations alerts people to God and the possibility of eternal damnation.

God is very lonely and He seeks for people to talk to Him. Please keep in communication with God.

Persevere to the end! God wants you and me to be with Him.

God is perfect and we are imperfect. Try to lessen our imperfections by communicating with God and let Him guide us along the path to fewer imperfections.

Gerald said...

And we criticize Iran for deadly weapons

Gerald said...

Marion Fulk, a highly respected Manhattan Project and Livermore atomic scientist, however, says that depleted uranium "is perfect for killing lots of people." That, in fact, along with contamination of the land, is the purpose of the devices being tested.

The tests at Livermore Site 300 use exotic high explosives to detonate weaponized uranium gas in solid metal form. The uranium metal catches fire and burns at more than 3,000 degrees, producing fumes of radioactive gas – or aerosols – that are deadly to all life forms.

Nazi Americans must really be glorified to hear these words on DU.

The Watada trial is a mistrial. I heard that Lt. Watada was willing to fight in Afghanistan but not Iraq because he believed that the Iraq war was illegal. Thank you Lt. Watada for your courage!!!

Gerald said...

Posters, please remember that DU is prohibited by International Criminal Law, the International Criminal Court, and the United Nations. Yes, NAZI AMERICA IS GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES, TOTALLY GUITY!!! BUT, THE DEVIL INCARNATE NATION DETERMINES WHAT IS A WAR CRIME AND WHAT IS NOT A WAR CRIME!!!

ºCºarol said...

An astronaut loses it and now NASA is going to "review their procedures". "Oh, no!!! Maybe we have another loose canon! We'd better do something!!!!"

Micki said...


Global Warming and Hot Air By Robert J. Samuelson Wednesday, February 7, 2007

Oh! Dr. B, you've likely located the link at this late hour on Samuelson's regular Wednesday column in WaPo, but just in case...

Jeanne said...

I bought two of Chris Hedges books. I haven't started them yet. I started a job this week. Welcome to the monkey house.

Jeanne said...

It's been cold here. On Monday it was so cold you could feel it as you breathed it in. Today it was just sufferin cold. You dress for it and whine. Next week will be a little warmer.

My husband was so happy to hear the Tim Russert was basically telling the world that Libby was lying. The most hilarious thing is that Bush won't pardon Libby. When that group is through with you it's over. They don't care if you live or die.

Alan said...

Helen Thomas got a lifetime achievement award.

Washington Press Club Foundation.

Saladin said...

DEN, as you pointed out my post was directed at Firefox users, or those who are interested in alternatives, not people who like to support the mega-Goliaths AOL and Microsoft! I like to work with the smaller innovators who are very clever in coming up with ways to foil hackers, and best of all offer their work to the general public for free. I've had nothing but trouble with IE 6 and had to actually uninstall IE 7 because of endless bugs. I spent several hours on the phone with both Earthlink and MS techs after a automatic update downloaded 7, it was so screwed up the MS tech had me get rid of it. He said MS had a whole team working on the problems and that there would be an hour wait to talk to one of them, so I just got rid of it. MS is notorious for releasing problem riddled software! And their new Vista is the worst yet! NO THANKS! I don't find Firefox any slower than IE, but then, everything is slow with dial-up. I say, support the little guys, it's the mega corps that are the ruination of the planet!

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