Wednesday, February 21, 2007

They have It and We Want It!

No, it's not paradise silly! We have that already, it's called Hawaii.

I was talking about the Mid-East oil grab. The top countries with the most oil underfoot are; Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Iran, in that order.

The Bush administration likes everyone to think that terrorism and fighting them over there so we don't have to here is the whole story. Well hold onto you bloomers there Gertie, have I got a surprise for you! It's the black goo buried under the sand is what we are after over there. Terrorists to them are like flys buzzing around the oilmens' heads, not any real concern at all.

When is the last time you heard of OPEC raising oil prices? Times up! The very notion that a bunch of camel jockeys can hold the US hostage is intolerable to the big oil companies, thats their job to hold us hostage and force us to keep Fat Bastards' Exxon retirement checks coming in. Bow down to the Oil God and fill up your gas-pig SUV or else!

So it goes, one oil rich country damn near conquered and one to go, whats a few dead bodies when enormous profits are possible?

We should have seen it coming long ago, now it is too late, the game is well underway.


DEN said...

Ok so the subject has been beat to death about the oil grab but with the crap flying around one must remain focused.

Technically we are at war with ourselves and we are winning.

We kill people to be able to pump oil out of the ground so we can put it in our gas-pig SUVs and kill some more with the emissions and global warming.

So you see it is worth repeating, kill, kill,and kill some more for what?

Money of course, they do not call it the 'root of all evil' for nothing you know.

Gerald said...

micki, from the previous thread thank you for the correct spelling of Donner. I knew that you did not believe I was smoking anything.

den, I always repeat myself and beat some issues into oblivion. I do it because Americans have short memories. We forget easily and we need to be constantly reminded of our country's evil intentions and ways.

DEN said...

The Parrot

Laura Bush bought George a parrot for his birthday.

She told Dick Cheney, "The bird is so smart! George has already taught
him to mispronounce over 200 words!"

"Wow, that's pretty impressive," Cheney said. "But you realize that he just says the words. He doesn't understand what they mean".

"That's okay," Laura replied. "Neither does the parrot".

DEN said...

Gerald said; den, I always repeat myself and beat some issues into oblivion. I do it because Americans have short memories. We forget easily and we need to be constantly reminded of our country's evil intentions and ways.

We on the blog here are on your side Gerald, we understand your concerns but don't need the reminding here that others do elsewhere.

Feel free to post your opinion, just don't beat it to death, you risk losing your effectiveness by constant repetition in any forum.

Just sayin

Alan said...

Den, did you get a reply from Sal on the 'woman president' email that she couldn't see them? Unless Earthlink has changed recently, you'd have to 'save' those pics, then send them attached in a zip file in order for her to see them. 'Course she would have to save the zip file and unzip it where it makes a new folder.

Not worth the effort, is it?

Alan said...

Larry Johnson mentions Corn's book in his latest article.

She became a NOC and, thanks to the Corn/Isikoff book Hubris, we now know she was helping hunt down Saddam's weapons of mass destruction.

Was She Covert?

Sorry to again beat what some of you may believe is a dead horse, but a reporter from a major news organization told me today that they are still arguing in his/her newsroom about whether Valerie Plame was covert. The journalist who told me this is a talented, smart person but is still confused about the terms "covert", "cover", and "non-official cover". So here's my gift to confused journalists.

Gerald said...

I just received my Democratic National Committee survey. One of the questions asked whether the Democratic controlled Congress should protect American manufacturing jobs from being outsourced? I replied that if the Democrats had to ask that question, then they are too stupid to be in control of Congress.


I also added that I see no difference between the Nazis (GOP) and the Democrats.

DEN said...

Alan if she opens it in IE it will work I think, did for me.

Alan said...

Alan if she opens it in IE it will work I think, did for me.

I dunno what that means. It would be an email in her Earthlink inbox and she would open it with their email software. (it looks similiar to Outlook Express, and like OE, you have to request for your mail to be DL'd from the server... mine is already there when I log on to AOL to check it) IE being a web browser and not for email, I don't understand your post.

DEN said...

Alan, sorry I use Yahoo for my mail and using Firefox for a browser won't let pics in to be viewed, so I go to Yahoo mail in IE(Internet Explorer) and it works, sorry I am not familiar with AOL or Earthlink e-mail.

I am an AOL hater from way back, sounds like Earthlink is not much better.

Get a Yahoo mailbox and screw those two snoopy sites.

Alan said...

Get a Yahoo mailbox and screw those two snoopy sites.

I mainly use my AOL software ONLY FOR MAIL, since it's free and user friendly. I have Outlook and can use it with my RoadRunner addy, but I don't because it's more complicated and there's more steps to do the same things that are a snap with AOL's. Yahoo is better than it was about size of emails allowed (Hotmail is the worst), but still not as good as AOL. From my mailing list, I still get some returned from Yahoo users with an error message about it being too big.
Ever sent a 10mb email?? I can, tho I never have. Six or seven mb songs aren't a prob though and I've sent many of those (they DEFINITELY come back as error messages/undeliverable with yahoo users)... tho most aren't that big.
So anyways, each to his own, as long as it's not Earthlink. haha

DEN said...

Alan I'll second that!

Might want to read this.

Snooping Feds again!

DEN said...


I am passing this on to you because it definitely works, and we could all use a little more calmness in our lives. By following simple advice heard on the Dr. Phil show, you too can find inner peace. Dr. Phil proclaimed,

"The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you have
started and have never finished."

So, I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn't finished, and before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle chocolate sauce, a gallon of ice-cream, a bottle of Coke, a package of Oreos, the remainder of my old Prozac prescription, the rest of the cheesecake, some Doritos and a box of chocolates.

You have no idea how good I feel.

Anonymous said...

In case anyone missed this...

Making Martial Law Easier

Published: February 19, 2007, The New York Times

A disturbing recent phenomenon in Washington is that laws that strike to the heart of American democracy have been passed in the dead of night. So it was with a provision quietly tucked into the enormous defense budget bill at the Bush administration’s behest that makes it easier for a president to override local control of law enforcement and declare martial law.

The provision, signed into law in October, weakens two obscure but important bulwarks of liberty. One is the doctrine that bars military forces, including a federalized National Guard, from engaging in law enforcement. Called posse comitatus, it was enshrined in law after the Civil War to preserve the line between civil government and the military. The other is the Insurrection Act of 1807, which provides the major exemptions to posse comitatus. It essentially limits a president’s use of the military in law enforcement to putting down lawlessness, insurrection and rebellion, where a state is violating federal law or depriving people of constitutional rights.

The newly enacted provisions upset this careful balance. They shift the focus from making sure that federal laws are enforced to restoring public order. Beyond cases of actual insurrection, the president may now use military troops as a domestic police force in response to a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, terrorist attack or to any “other condition.”

Changes of this magnitude should be made only after a thorough public airing. But these new presidential powers were slipped into the law without hearings or public debate. The president made no mention of the changes when he signed the measure, and neither the White House nor Congress consulted in advance with the nation’s governors.

There is a bipartisan bill, introduced by Senators Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont, and Christopher Bond, Republican of Missouri, and backed unanimously by the nation’s governors, that would repeal the stealthy revisions. Congress should pass it. If changes of this kind are proposed in the future, they must get a full and open debate.

DEN said...

Micki, You might want to read the counter to that article here at Huffpo by Jane Smiley.

Carey said...

Please help put polar bears on the endangered species list.


Carey said...

From yesterday's thread.

Micki, how is your fixation on boobies coming along?

Thanks for the thorough description of various species-specific forms of cannibalism. I won't be eating dinner. Just as well.

Thanks also for the two marvelous jokes.

From today's blog, Wow! That provision easing the implementation of martial law. That sounds nasty. I'm going to Huffpost now to read the other argument.

Carey said...

Gerald repeats himself and issues severe warnings because it's a stress reliever for him. But he also sees things a little differently and often way ahead of most people.

We should keep this group in mind and follow it's doings.

The Left's Club for Growth

...Following the election, a new group called They Work for Us was formed by leaders of the labor, online and progressive organizing worlds to hold fellow Democrats accountable, through media campaigns and primary challenges.

Carey said...

I keep forgetting to mention how beautiful the photo is Den. Spectacular.

We are so deeply embedded in mud and tangled in seaweed-dripping sludge when discussing "who" the enemy is in Iraq.

There is no definitive "who". It's Iraqis who want Americans out.

There's confusion about "who" the enemy is in Iran too.


The Sadr City question

So far, the U.S. "surge" in Iraq has focused largely on the Sunni militants who make up the bulk of the anti-U.S. insurgency. But now, the Los Angeles Times reports, U.S. and Iraqi government forces are coming under pressure from Sunni politicians to go after what many have thought was the main target of the escalation: the Shiites who make up the Mahdi Army.

Led by radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who was one of the first to speak out against the U.S. occupation, the Mahdi Army's stronghold is in the section of Baghdad that was once named Saddam City. Today, reflecting the shift in power since the invasion, that area of 2 million Shiites is now Sadr City.

U.S. forces have tried to quell the anti-U.S. militants in Sadr City once before, in 2004. That operation resulted, the Times says, only in heavy casualties for the U.S. and a bolstering of Sadr's popularity.

Today, Sadr City -- despite the presence of the Mahdi Army -- is one of the calmest areas of Baghdad. That's one of the reasons some would like to avoid entering it as part of the security crackdown, fearing a return of the earlier troubles there. Additionally, Sadr and his supporters make up one of the key constituencies of the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki; if Sadr were to withdraw that support, Maliki's government might well collapse. Finally, as Salon has previously reported, one problem with moving against the Mahdi Army is that there is a significant extent of Mahdi Army sympathy within the Iraqi army itself.

-- Alex Koppelman

Jeanne said...

Hi guys. My daughter has been stealing my computer and I'm working full time now. It doesn't leave a lot of time to browse.

I was listening to NPR and heard the report on the judges ruling in bush's favor concerning the prisoners in Gitmo. As an American citizen it really bothers me that we are holding people who will never get a day in court. If my country is going to hold prisoners I want to know what their crime is.

Anonymous said...

Well, Den, if bush declared martial law it wouldn't be funny at all.  Do I think it's possible he could declare martial law?  Yes, it's possible.  Will he?  I don't know. But, one has to wonder why they're designing plans and legislation to make it easier to do so...

But, IF he did declare martial law, I think many Americans would rationalize that it's "for our safety" and they would largely accept it as long as their lives continued much as they did before martial law was imposed -- enough gas to drive to The Mall, access to their mind-numbing TV shows, regular meals at fast-food and chain "family" restaurants, schlepping the kids to soccer practice, a vacation every now and then to a theme park. Yeah, you bet. If they see armed soldiers in the streets, armed guards at schools and churches, "routine" searches at sporting events, etc., they will gladly put up with it, if they figure they're "safer" because of marital law being the law of the land.

Most Americans are totally unaware of the decision by a U.S. Federal Appeals Court to deny detainees the right to challenge their detention at Guantanamo Bay. Humans are rounded-up, herded like cattle, and shipped-off to a gulag, without any rights, after being labeled enemy combatants, and many Americans go on about their lives not realizing the enormous import of what's going on in our name.

They will figure the only ones who will be affected by the imposition of martial law will be "those people" who are not like them. You know, "those people" who have something to hide.

David B. Benson said...

Somehow I'm reminded of a old song.

"Oh, sinner man, where you going to run to?"

Gerald said...

Have you not heard me say that Hitler would declare martial law and cancel the 2008 elections? Hitler's grab for power should be a clear indication that his goal is to never leave the WH. It is starting to fall into place. Yes, we are completely a Nazi state!!!

Gerald said...

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Eight Kinds of Conservatives

Gerald said...

Posters, it is too late!!! We are a totally enslaved Nazi state. We are in hell!!!Nazi America is getting what she deserves - a living hell.

DEN said...

Micki, it does look like pieces of a bigger puzzle coming together to make him even more powerful.

I wonder if Congress would grow some stones and finally crack down on his little agenda.

Managing nationwide martial law would be a logistical nightmare to co-ordinate and get every podunk town under control. Like herding cats.

It is the very attempt to gain this control that convinces me he is up to no good. I am not real familiar with policies and procedures to evict this money-grubbing bunch but something needs to be done now.

They are a rotting mass of pond scum defacing our once grand country.

DEN said...

Gerald, I thought it was getting hotter in here!

I am going to hold off and have wait and see approach, certain events lead me to believe there are sinister forces at work.

What are you going to do? You cannot fight them by yourself, even with all of us helping we wouldn't have a snowballs chance in this very hell of defeating those sinister forces.

We have to let it run it's course because unless we riot in the streets, nothing will change, too many disconnected people not paying attention to these thugs.

Better keep your blood pressure down by allowing these things to pass. Write letters to Senators and Representatives, explain your concerns, offer advice.

But internalizing the tragedy around you will help nothing except send you to an early grave and there you definitely won't be able to help anyone and people that care about you will have lost you too.

Please take care of yourself, we are all on this bad carnival ride together and you have friends here.

Anonymous said...

Run to the rock, rock was a meltin'
Run to the sea, sea was a boilin'
Run to the moon, moon was a bleedin'

Running is not a viable option.

Anonymous said...

Managing nationwide martial law would be a logistical nightmare to co-ordinate and get every podunk town under control.

Okay...just a fictional scenario. Nothing more.

Blackwater mercenary types would control the cities...and the "podunk" towns would fall into line, or else.


O'Reilly said...

"The special prosecutor in the CIA leak case, Patrick Fitzgerald, is suggesting in his strongest terms yet that Vice President Cheney was involved in an effort to unmask a CIA operative married to an administration critic.

"Mr. Fitzgerald's explosive comments came as he delivered closing arguments yesterday in the monthlong obstruction-of-justice and perjury trial of Mr. Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr."

In fact, Gerstein astutely spotted an even wider critique of the White House than I did: "Broadening his attack on the White House, Mr. Fitzgerald took a shot at President Bush, indirectly criticizing him for not firing officials implicated in the leaks about the CIA officer, Valerie Plame. The prosecutor noted that in 2003 the White House press secretary, Scott McClellan, said Mr. Bush would immediately dismiss anyone involved in leaking Ms. Plame's identity.

"'Any sane person would think, based on what McClellan said in October 2003, that any person involved in this would be fired,' Mr. Fitzgerald said.

"The prosecutor's clear implication was that Mr. Bush failed to keep his word. Mr. Bush's top political aide, Karl Rove, is still working at the White House despite having served as a source for two press accounts about Ms. Plame."

- Josh Gerstein, New York Sun

O'Reilly said...

With the close of the Libby trial, I'd like to step back and start trying to define what the important, overarching narratives to emerge from the case actually are:

1. The administration lied us into war and tried to abuse its power to punish the whistleblower who told the American public the truth.

2. Scooter is the firewall to Shooter.

3. Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby and other members of the administration conspired to keep federal investigators from uncovering their crimes.

4. The media was complicit in spreading administration propaganda rather than doing investigative journalism, and are now helping to set the table for a pardon.

5. The journalistic standards that have been exposed in the case (witness Tim Russert, Judy Miller, Andrea Mitchell, Robert Novak and others) are reprehensible, and have undermined the public trust in the media.

6. The degree to which this story about the lies that lead to war has been ignored by the media (relative to the feeding frenzy over a Clinton blowjob) left a huge opening that the blogs have filled.


Saladin said...

DEN, I got the pics just fine. Thanks, just what I needed before breakfast!