Wednesday, February 14, 2007

Valentines Day!!



Valentines Day greetings to all the 'Chicks' here on DWF, I love you all!!!

From Holiday origins.com:

"No one is quite sure exactly who Valentine was. There are at least three and possible eight different Valentines claimed to be the real romantic. The three most likely Valentines were all church martyrs. One was killed with a group of believers and the other two, a priest of Rome and a Bishop of Interamna, beheaded by Emperor Claudius II in 269 A.D. The remains of one of the Valentines is said to be in the church of St. Praxedes in Rome."

"There are several legends regarding Valentine. He was said to have been imprisoned and while there, cured the jailer's daughter from blindness. Yet another story has him falling in love with the jailer's daughter sending her a letter signed "from your Valentine." However the most likely origin of Valentine's day goes back to the Roman Lupercalia, a feast celebrating the God Lupercus. During that feast, young women would put their names into a box from which young men would draw. This matchmaking process would then enamor the two youth until the next year. Associating the matchmaking feast with the martyrdom of Valentine was convenient because the days were almost identical."

"Sending love notes on Valentines Day occurred much later. Charles Duc d' Orleans, while imprisoned in the Tower of London, supposedly wrote amorous poems and letters to his wife in 1415. Valentine love notes gradually increased in popularity until their mechanization in 1840. Since 1840, Valentine Cards have become tremendously popular all over the world."

And this from American Catholic.org:

The roots of St. Valentine's Day lie in the ancient Roman festival of Lupercalia, which was celebrated on Feb. 15. For 800 years the Romans had dedicated this day to the god Lupercus. On Lupercalia, a young man would draw the name of a young woman in a lottery and would then keep the woman as a sexual companion for the year.

Pope Gelasius I was, understandably, less than thrilled with this custom. So he changed the lottery to have both young men and women draw the names of saints whom they would then emulate for the year (a change that no doubt disappointed a few young men). Instead of Lupercus, the patron of the feast became Valentine. For Roman men, the day continued to be an occasion to seek the affections of women, and it became a tradition to give out handwritten messages of admiration that included Valentine's name.

There was also a conventional belief in Europe during the Middle Ages that birds chose their partners in the middle of February. Thus the day was dedicated to love, and people observed it by writing love letters and sending small gifts to their beloved. Legend has it that Charles, duke of Orleans, sent the first real Valentine card to his wife in 1415, when he was imprisoned in the Tower of London. (He, however, was not beheaded, and died a half-century later of old age.)

So there you have it, two versions of the real story behind Valentines day.

I hope you all have a favorite person to exchange greetings with and be extra special nice to today.

HUGGS-N-KISSES!!



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52 comments:

DEN said...

WEE bit disappointed, the image I selected)roses were supposed to sparkle, however they do not.

Click on them and they will open in a separate window and sparkle.

Micki said...

Ahhhhhhh, thanks Den. A bouquet!

Micki said...

According to Roman mythology, Cupid was the son of Mercury, the messenger god, and Venus, the goddess of love. In Roman times, the winged "messenger of love" was sometimes depicted in armor, but no one is sure if that was intended as a sarcastic comment on the similarities between warfare and romance, or a reminder that love conquers all. Cupid was generally seen as a good spirit who brought happiness to all, but his matchmaking could cause mischief. Venus wasn't above using her son's power to get revenge on her rivals, and she once plotted to have the beautiful mortal Psyche fall in love with a despicable man. But the plan backfired: Cupid fell in love with Psyche, and she eventually became his immortal wife.

Saladin said...

Happy V Day DEN!

Saladin said...

Don't Do It, Mr. President

by Ron Paul

Before the U.S. House of Representatives February 6, 2007

It's a bad idea.

There's no need for it.

There's great danger in doing it.

America is against it, and Congress should be.

The United Nations is against it.

The Russians, the Chinese, the Indians, and the Pakistanis are against it.

The whole world is against it.

Our allies are against it.

Our enemies are against it.

The Arabs are against it.

The Europeans are against it.

The Muslims are against it.

We don't need to do this.

The threat is overblown.

The plan is an hysterical reaction to a problem that does not yet exist.

Hysteria is never a good basis for foreign policy.

Don't we ever learn?

Have we already forgotten Iraq?

The plan defies common sense.

If it's carried out, the Middle East, and possibly the world, will explode.

Oil will soar to over $100 a barrel, and gasoline will be over $5 a gallon.

Despite what some think, it won't serve the interests of Israel.

Besides – it's illegal.

It's unconstitutional.

And you have no moral authority to do it.

We don't need it.

We don't want it.

So, Mr. President, don't do it.

Don't bomb Iran!

The moral of the story, Mr. Speaker, is this: if you don't have a nuke, we'll threaten to attack you. If you do have a nuke, we'll leave you alone. In fact, we'll probably subsidize you. What makes us think Iran does not understand this?

February 14, 2007

Micki said...

46 second video -- back when Rudy Giuliana was Donald Trump's "Valentine" -- the dress, the smooch

What was Rudy thinking? Oy.

Oh!

DEN said...

WOWZER!! Goulianni and Richie Rich!
What a marvelous couple, don't you think!

Get a room!

Micki said...

I wonder if anyone will remember that following 9/11 that Mr. Rudy went to the NY State Legislature asking for a bill that would allow him to continue as Mayor of NYC (term limits didn't allow him to run for a 3rd term)?

He sounds as fascist as the busheviks.

Put a fork in him. He's done.

But....because Rudy doesn't have a chance of a snow ball in hell...and McCain is senile...and Mitt, Mitt who?...

That means Jeb is going to come to the rescue of the GOP. Gotta keep those policies going in perpetuity, ya know.

Oy.

DEN said...

Mitt the Mormon has the Jews pissed off because he threw his hat into the ring at the Henry(Hitler supporter)Ford museum in Detroit.

He bad! So are Fords.

DEN said...

Islamic extremists, Zionists, Christo-fascists, religious wars.

What if God is an asshole?

Reading the Old Testament shows a God with neither mercy or forgiveness, but a vengeful anger issue riddled superbeing intent on punishment of humanity for it's supposed transgressions, demanding worship and reverence or else you get smitten or turned into a pillar of salt.

Buddha on the other hand has been around longer and shows a very benevolent side, encouraging humanity to become one with nature, and respect all living things.

HMMMM, choice is clear, Buddha wins hands down! Peace trumps violence!

Micki said...

World Out of Balance

Interesting site

Anonymous said...

•c•arol said...
JUST A THOUGHT: Both blogs are kind of quiet. Nothing going on. Gee, what could liven them up? Hmm, let me think.

How about a disagreement, a little fist-a-cuffs, an argument, a little "incivility". The blogs I've been on have been the most fun when trolls were about (or here where perfect conduct rules) when people disagreed.

That's when the blogging communitiy is the most interesting. That's when we get to know each other. Contributing to a forum should be just that, a forum. Personalities should be allowed to shine through. It's half of what makes it all worth it.

That said, I read a thread on a Detroit Free Press blog tonight and it made me nostalgic for Corn's site. It was fun to watch intelligent people take on a couple guys that were flat out wrong. Made me miss LBH and Happy, et al.

2/13/2007 9:05 PM

Gerald said...

Praying Each Day: February 14

Micki said...

Bush at Press Conference Today Contradicts Sunday's Briefing on Iranian Weapons

By E&P Staff

Published: February 14, 2007 1:45 PM ET

NEW YORK At his press conference this morning in ice-covered Washington, D.C., President Bush was pressed by reporters on U.S. officials' claims at a Baghdad briefing on Sunday. These unnamed officials charged that not only were weapons from Iran killing American soldiers in Iraq, they were being used on orders from top Iranian leaders.

The New York Times and Washington Post, among other papers, featured these charges on the top of their Web sites and front page on Sunday and Monday. Since then, skepticism has grown, with even Gen. Peter Pace saying that he knew of no evidence linking Iranian leaders to any use of such weapons.

So the question came up at today's press conference. Here is an excerpt.
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QUESTION: Critics say that you are using the same quality of intelligence about Iran that you used to make the case for war in Iraq -- specifically about WMD -- that turned out to be wrong, and that you are doing that to make a case for war against Iran.

Is that the case?

BUSH: I can say with certainty that the Quds Force, a part of the Iranian government, has provided these sophisticated IEDs that have harmed our troops.

And I'd like to repeat: I do not know whether or not the Quds Force was ordered from the top echelons of government.

But my point is: What's worse -- them ordering it and it happening, or them not ordering it and it's happening?

And so we will continue to protect our troops.

We -- our strategy is comprehensive in order to resolve problems that will affect our own peace and the peace in the world.

And the biggest problem I see is the Iranians' desire to have a nuclear weapon. And, as you know, we've been dealing with this issue ever since you've been covering me, and pretty much ever since I've been the president.

And we've made it very clear to the Iranians that, if they would like to have a dialogue with the United States, there needs to be a verifiable suspension of their program.

I would hope that they would do that. I would like to be -- have been -- given a chance for us to explain that we have no desire to harm the Iranian people.

But my focus is on making sure that this weapon is dealt with, the program is dealt with in a constructive, peaceful way.

And we'll continue to work toward achieving our common objectives, with other nations in the world, in a peaceful way....

Q I want to follow up on Iran one more time. Are you saying, today, that you do not know if senior members of the Iranian government are, in fact, behind these explosives? That contradicts what U.S. officials said in Baghdad on Sunday. They said the highest levels of the Iranian government were behind this.

It also -- it seems to square with what General Pace has been saying, but contradicts with what your own press secretary said yesterday. What...

BUSH: Can I -- let me -- I can't say it more plainly: There are weapons in Iraq that are harming U.S. troops because of the Quds Force.

As you know, I hope, the Quds Force is a part of the Iranian government. Whether Ahmadinejad ordered the Quds Force to do this, I don't think we know. But we do know that they're there.

And I intend to do something about it.

And I've asked our commanders to do something about it. And we're going to protect our troops.

Q But given some of those contradictions, Mr. President...

BUSH: There's no contradiction that the weapons are there and they were provided by the Quds Force...

Q What assurances can you give the American people that the intelligence this time will be accurate?

BUSH: We know they're there. We know they're provided by the Quds Force. We know the Quds Force is a part of the Iranian government. I don't think we need who picked up the phone and said to the Quds Force, "Go do this," but we know it's a vital part of the Iranian government.

What matters is, is that we're responding. The idea that somehow we're manufacturing the idea that the Iranians are providing IEDs is preposterous. My job is to protect our troops. And when we find devices that are in that country that are hurting our troops, we're going to do something about it, pure and simple.

Now, David says: Does this mean you're trying to have a pretext for war? No. It means I'm trying to protect our troops. That's what that's means. And that's what the family members of our soldiers expect the commander in chief and those responsible for -- responsible for our troops on the ground.

And we'll continue to do so.

DEN said...

Or maybe we are supposed to be warriors.

Wouldn't it be funny if God showed up and everyone was peaceful and got along, and he expected to find warriors for him?

We should have killed those who did not follow the law laid down in the OT? Gods' children smiting the bad children, using his example.

Thoughts treading a seldom traveled road of wonder.

Micki said...

anonnymooses unite!

DEN said...

No Carol we DO NOT need trolls, thanks anyway.

If you desire conflict, I'm sure there is some out there somewhere.

DEN said...

Micki, seems a bit to convenient doesn't it.

You don't see him complaining about Russian arms(AK47's, shoulder fired missles, etc.) just Iranian weapons.

Select your favorite enemy, then play it to the hilt.

All the better when they set off the false flag event, then the 'I told you so' rhetoric.
The genie will be out of the bottle.

Bush and Cheney are disgusting human beings and are not doing this for 'the troops', but themselves and their rich buddies.

WHY WHY WHY are these evil men still there?

DEN said...

Love Democratic Style.

Repugs projecting again!

º¿carol said...

The 14th Annual "TGFTLSBIAC" Awards
Will Durst - WorkingForChange.com


02.14.07 - Better strap a hairspray filter over your mouth, because it's red carpet season everybody. That blessed time of the year when mere mortals like us derive major entertainment value from watching famous singers, actors, starlets, athletes, has-beens and other celebrity wannabees strut and pout and smirk and flaunt and desperately attempt to replicate sincerity during that tiny window of their career that occurs between hiring a big-league publicist and having had so much plastic surgery they start to frighten small children and weasels, by which I mean their agents.

Inside the Beltway, they call politics "show business for ugly people," but absolutely no awards are given out to our hardworking representatives. Unless you call the honor of serving we, the unwashed hoi polloi scurrying about their districts, a just award. "Being elected to serve to good people of (insert place name here) is all the award I need." Gag. But some of these guys and gals have gone the extra mile and deserve to be recognized for their unstinting effort in making my job as a political humorist as easy as slam dunking from a step ladder.

And although attempts to secure a television deal for the awards ceremony this year were less than successful, our salivating expectations of extreme schadenfruede will not be absorbed by the bib of lamentation, as we hand out for the 14th time, the prestigious TGFTLSBIAC awards. The "Thank God For These Liquid Squeezebags Because I'm a Comic" Awards. Your gift bag is in the mail.


THE BEST IMPRESSION OF A SLEEPY LIZARD IN SEARCH OF A WARM ROCK AWARD: and the winner is... I'm sorry, we're all winners. The award goes to Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell edging out 6 time winner Vice President Dick Cheney.

THE COLLATERAL DAMAGE AWARD: goes to Rhode Island Senator Lincoln Chafee. Sorry buddy. Nothing personal.

THE CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR AWARD: newcomer Connecticut Senate Candidate Ned Lamont.

THE IF HE WERE A HORSE, WE'D HAVE TO SHOOT HIM AWARD: a repeat recipient, Delaware Senator Joseph Biden.

THE "JOHN KERRY" WORST CAMPAIGN EVER AWARD: although California Gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides gave her a run for her money, this year's award goes to Congresswoman Katherine Harris for her Florida Senate campaign which to call faulty from the get go would be generous.

THE SMILE SO TIGHT YOU CAN HEAR THE ENAMEL CRACKING AWARD: she's been working for this for years, how about a hand for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in an upset over defending champ Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

THE YOU CAN'T KEEP A GRASPING RAVENOUSLY AMBITIOUS MAN DOWN AWARD: and the winner is... Alf's dad, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman.

THE NOBODY RETURNS MY CALLS ANYMORE AWARD: In a runaway, former Congressman Mark Foley overtakes early favorites former Congressmen Bob Ney and Duke Cunningham.

THE MOST IMPORTANT MAN IN AMERICA AWARD: For the 7th year in a row, Supreme Court Justice John Paul Steven's doctor.

THE LET'S SETTLE GLOBAL DISPUTES BY HOLDING HANDS AND SINGING KUMBAYA AWARD: holding steady at 1 percent in polls that sport a 4 percent margin of error: Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich.

THE COMEDIC TIMING OF AN END TABLE AWARD: It's a tie! Hugo Chavez and John Kerry.

THE PROOF THAT LAWYERS EAT THEIR YOUNG AWARD: sweeping the field with multiple nominations is Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

THE CLOCK IS TICKING AWARD: finds Iraqi President Nouri Al-Maliki narrowly defeating last year's winner Scooter Libby.

THE UNCLEAR ON THE CONCEPT OF PAYBACK AWARD: is given to the entire Republican Party Congressional Caucus for whining about the Democrat Party cutting them out of the legislative process.

THE REALITY TRUMPS FICTION AWARD: in a crowded field, the clear winner is Mister Cash in the Freezer himself, Louisiana Congressman William Jefferson.

THE "HOIST ON YOUR OWN PETARD" LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD: goes to, and he couldn't be more deserving, Tom Delay.

Alan said...

The Swiftboating of Jesus H. Christ

VATICAN CITY — It began as these things so often do, at a rally with hundreds of supporters. Balloons fell from the ceiling and banners waved. Those in attendance were true believers - believers that they were supporting the man who would make everything right for the United States of America.

Jesus Christ was running for President.
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The rest is pretty much exactly what would happen.

Alan said...

At the top of "Crooks...", y'all should watch Rep. Nadler's speech or at least read the text. He's knocking 'em out of the park.

Micki said...

Hey, Carey...thinking about your comments/link about Obama. 

I was in Seattle this weekend.  At a social gathering that included people of color there was profound skepticism about Obama's candidacy.  One friend, a black male high school music teacher, said he prefers Hillary (but would vote for Obama if he wins the nomination) because she is better equipped to face the daunting challenges our country faces, nationally and internationally -- our international reputation is in tatters, China and India are in ascendency, not a bad thing in and of itself but one that requires that the next president can command their respect, understanding, cooperation, and U.S. foreign policy is a joke. My friend the music teacher and his two brothers, an attorney and a track & field coach at a major university, and his sister, a social worker, all think that Hillary could win this race.

My friend wondered why some people make such a big deal out of the fact that Obama won a U.S. Senate seat in Illinois as a black man -- he said, "His opponent was Alan Keyes for godsakes! Barack should have gotten ALL the votes."

Remember that GOPer Alan Keyes moved (at the 11th hour) from Maryland to Illinois to run against Obama, when Obama's disgraced GOP opponent was accused of forcing his ex-wife to go to sex clubs or some darned thing.

Anyway, I guess what my friend means is that Obama hasn't really passed the test yet.

DEN said...

Alan, you know, that stuff has been said soooooooo many times and no results, nada, zip, zilch.

It is all totally true but to ignore logic and go with chaos as business as usual is profane.

We cannot stop the civil war we allowed to happen, but we do not have to make it worse.

Carey said...

Yes, thank-you Den for the lovely, sparkly roses. Happy Valentines Day all.

Just got back from a fantastic Valentine's Day hike, my first since mild pneumonia. Yeah, I'm happy!

Then I read Micki's post of Bush's news conference. Shit. I keep saying here we go, well, here we go. On to Iran.

Micki--Put a fork in him. He's done.

Exactamundo. Rudi--finito.

Obama has much to prove. I don't think he's quite ready for the presidency yet. And your friend is right. Experience is going to be of top-notch importance in leading the massive cleanup job ahead.

Carey said...

Oh for sure! Buddha all the way! Like him.

Alan said...

Welp, that's the only one of the 5-minute alotted time speeches I've heard... maybe another 230-some odd speeches will sound the same and it will sink in/rub off on Americans. Maybe

Defense rested and Fitz had a stipulation read into the record, then the government rested it's redirect. Defense arguing to expunge some of the evidence and other ongoing minor stuff... looks like final arguments next Wed.

DEN said...

Alan, as much as I would like to believe Americans are listening I know better.

We have a severe lack of Civics training here in the US. No one knows WTF is going on, it is up to those very congress critters to do something about this mess the neo-cons made by passing a measure to cut any further funding of this oil-grab war.

But reality sez, ain't gonna happen cause too many of those very congress critters are up to their eyeballs in oil lobby money and know they butter their bread. I wish I could be more optimistic.

Wait and see what happens I guess.

DEN said...

[L]et's put it this way, money trumps peace, sometimes. In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world . . And, therefore, I'm working with people to make sure that that concern trumps whatever commercial interests may be preventing governments from acting. I make no specific accusation with that statement. It's a broad statement. But it's an accurate assessment of what sometimes can halt multilateral diplomacy from working. [emphasis added]

The words of the dictator-n-cheese,
Read my lips; its the OIL dammit!

@Daily KOS

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David B. Benson said...

Thirty.

Carey said...

Sal,

Thanks for the Ron Paul words from the floor.

Just finished yesterday's thread, then I made the mistake of rereading Micki's post on Bush's press conference. Made me forget my comments from the last thread.

What a damn downer, today's quotes. It's like THE death knoll of hope.

Carol,

I know you like some pisazz. I must say you added to it with that post of Will Durst's. Oh, I love him to death.

Thanks. Emailing to friends and family.

Carey said...

More news on Al Franken and where to from here.

For Paul's Seat

After recalling his campaign swings through his home state of Minnesota on behalf of the late Paul Wellstone, comedian, author and activist Al Franken closed his last Air America radio show with an announcement that he will be running in 2OO8 "for Paul's seat."

Carey said...

I'm sure you've all read of the Iranian 2003 diplomatic approach to the U.S. and the Bush team's outright rejection of it. This will, of course, haunt historians.

David Corn will have to write an updated Hubris to cover the fraudulent selling of the Iran war.

Is the Bush Administration Lying About Iran?

Did the Bush Administration miss a major opportunity in the spring of 2003 to engage Iran and stabilize the Middle East? Two high-ranking former Administration officials contend it did.

....Then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice could have pushed President Bush to begin talks with Iran. But Rice did nothing--and now claims she never saw the memo. "I just don't remember ever seeing any such thing," she told the House Foreign Affairs Committee last week.

Leverett says Rice is lying. She's acknowledged the existence of the Iranian offer in previous interviews and discussed it with him personally. "She owes Congress an apology for saying she has never seen that document," he says.

Both Leverett and Wilkerson stressed that it is not to late to begin negotiating with Iran, as the Baker-Hamilton Commission and countless other foreign policy experts have urged. "If the Administration comes to its senses, it's still possible to put US-Iranian relations on a more positive trajectory," says Leverett.

Carey said...

Robert Scheer writes in this week's Truthdig of what I think is an emerging story of the year. That is, talk of Cheney's predominance in the administration. The findings of the Defense Dept. Investigation bring to light one of his key tools, the Pentagon's own intelligence section--"The Office of Special Plans".

David C. wrote of this charade in Hubris.


Before the Invasion There Was Feith

Someday, you are going to read a whole lot about the shenanigans of one Douglas J. Feith and an elaborate scheme to get the United States to invade Iraq. That is because Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., has been determined to get to the bottom of this sordid tale and is now, fortunately, head of the Senate Armed Services Committee and thereby empowered to get at the truth.

Carey said...

Ann Frank's Family Sought U.S. Visa, Letters Show

•¿•arol said...

Well, it's a start.

CLEAN-MONEY CANDIDATES ARE WINNING
Tuesday, February 13, 2007
Posted by Jim Hightower
Listen to this Commentary

Cynics say that we'll never get the controlling, corrupt corporate money out of politics. But those who say it can't be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.

For money reform that works – look not to Washington, but to states and cities, which are passing laws that provide public financing of their elections. This gives candidates an option that frees them from always going around rattling a tin cup for donations. The "Clean Elections" option is changing politics.

Maine, for example, has had four election cycles under its public financing system, and the astonishing result is that Mainers now have a state legislature in which 83 percent of its members have been elected with clean money. Nancy Smith, a small dairy farmer, is one of those house members, as is Deborah Simpson, a single mom who was a waitress. Neither could have run without the possibility of public funding. As Nancy says, "Clean campaigns allow those who work to run for office, and they create 'citizen legislatures' that bring very different perspectives and a different energy to government."

Likewise, 59 percent of Arizona's legislators have risen to office without taking special-interest money. In addition, nine of Arizona's eleven statewide elected offices are held by clean-money candidates, including Governor Janet Napolitano, who says she could not have beaten her corporate funded opponents without the pubic system.

North Carolina offers the clean-money funding option for its two top courts. In 2004, clean candidates won four of the five seats that were up for grabs on these courts, and last year, the publicly funded contenders took five of the six seats that were up. A reform leader says: "This change simply would not have happened without clean elections."

This is Jim Hightower saying... To bring real reform to elections in your area, visit Public Campaign's website: www.publiccampaign.org.

Sources:
"2002-2006 General Election Comparison," Maine Clean Elections, 2006.
Smith, Nancy. Phone Interview. January 2007.
"Profile: Maine Rep. Deborah Simpson," Public Campaign, August 14, 2006.
"2006 Election statistics," Arizona Clean Elections, December 6, 2006.
Ehst, Eric. Phone Interview. January 2007.
"Clean Election Candidates in Three States Win More Than 200 State Office Seats," Public Campaign, November 10, 2006.
"Now on PBS," www.pbs.org, October 20, 2006.

Carey said...

From the War Room in Salon.

Tuesday, White House press secretary Tony Snow: "The intelligence indicates that the Quds forces, which are part of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, are associated with this ... What is beyond dispute, and what is of primary importance here -- and Gen. Pace hasn't disagreed with it, and we don't disagree, and frankly, again, I think you'll find upon further conversation ... that, in fact, we generally agree on the basics of the situation here, which is there are armaments that have made their way from Iran into IraqTuesday, White House press secretary Tony Snow: "The intelligence indicates that the Quds forces, which are part of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, are associated with this ... What is beyond dispute, and what is of primary importance here -- and Gen. Pace hasn't disagreed with it, and we don't disagree, and frankly, again, I think you'll find upon further conversation ... that, in fact, we generally agree on the basics of the situation here, which is there are armaments that have made their way from Iran into Iraq. There are Iranian forces in Iraq.* These weapons are being used to kill Americans."

* My bold and italics

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WHAT??? These are Iranian forces in Iraq.

We are sooo in fantasyland.

Carey said...

"There are..." Correction.


Carol,

That's positive news about clean-money candidates.

Saladin said...

My goodness, the earth is out of balance?? Whatever shall we do?? Are you still driving? Still buying gasoline? How do you sleep knowing you are contributing to an unbalanced earth? Ted Turner will need to contribute another billion to the IPCC so they can decide what exactly constitutes a "balanced" earth. Meanwhile, hope and pray another life killing meteorite or super volcano doesn't upset the fragile "balance!" Or, maybe we humans are the worst thing that ever came along.

Micki said...

STFU Saladin.

You just can't stand to see a post or a link that you don't agree with, can you?

You just can't resist insulting someone when you have all the answers, can you?

Well, Den should jump on your sorry ass for your incivility.

He's certainly jumped on me.

Too bad you know so much more than the rest of us.

Happy Valentine's Day.

Love and kisses and hugs, Micki (with a capital M)

Jeanne said...

Happy valentine's day you guys.

Carey, there was a report on NPR about a guy who's family didn't help their reletives out of Europe. It was much the same story. But the reality was the relatives in America didn't have money, and they were busy trying to survive in America.

Micki said...

I've done just what she wanted me to do.

Micki said...

Well, "HI" Jeanne!

I hope your job is going well.

I hope Al regains Paul's seat.

Happy Valentine's Day.

º¿carol said...

Micki, yes you did. Saladin could have commented on anything on the blog, but she picked your post. You have a right to 'set her straight'. Besides, she loves it! (so do I)

DEN said...

Sal, WTF did you do that for?

Sarchastic retorts regarding what someone posts is not needed.

Others as well as yourself have a right to post comments here, if you do not like them, scroll past, please.

Serious discussion without snide remarks is welcome always, when it gets personal I have to draw the line. Thanks for understanding.

DEN said...

Democracy Now is good today, Greg Palast is the guest along with the Dixie Chicks manager, uh, forgot her name.

Saladin said...

STFU? That's what you get for disagreement? I guess it isn't as much fun as some people think, eh?DEN, I wasn't being snide, I was being serious, but I will STFU now. May peace and tranquility reign at DWF.

Micki said...



TOP SECRET POLO STEP
Iraq War Plan Assumed Only 5,000 U.S. Troops Still There by December 2006
CentCom PowerPoint Slides Briefed to White House and Rumsfeld in 2002, Obtained by National Security Archive through Freedom of Information Act


More proof the neocon bushevikians are delusional...

Micki said...

Thank you for your understanding, Den.

Micki said...

A Prewar Slide Show Cast Iraq in Rosy Hues

I wonder if Michael R. Gordon knew about this rosy picture in advance of the invasion...

DEN said...

Setting new post, 5,4,3,2,1

Micki said...

For liberal bloggers, Libby trial is fun and fodder