Wednesday, March 07, 2007


Moe, Curly, and Larry

If it says Libby Libby Libby on the table, you will love it, love it, love it in JAIL!

One down and two to go. The Coronary Kid and Neo-Cheerleader are next in the lineup.

Deadeye Dick quoted as saying "You'll never get me Coppers!"
Neo-Chimp said, "Are my Pom Poms OK?"

But seriously folks, the ball is rolling directly into the White House and Roocy, you got some splainin to do!

Very serious issues have been raised as to the legitimacy of this meat grinder war with Iraq. The sinister nature of the Vice Presidents office was revealed for all to see in the Libby trial. The backroom strategizing to make Joe Wilson suffer through the release of his wifes name, was by in large a HUGE abuse of power, the light has been switched on, now if we could only get the MSM to OPEN their eyes and face reality.

Reality unfortunately is not the MSM's strong suit, they find Anna Nicole and Brittany Spears more news worthy the say....the VA treatment of injured troops for example.

But there is a way. Calling and writing media outlets demanding to hear information on REAL news might jar them enough to pick up the ball Libby started rolling and get about the task of restoring our Federal Government to what it once was, a force working for the people, not corporations.

This is the era of American Idol, where stupid insults against people attempting to showcase their talents have take top billing over the serious issues of legitimacy in government, there is a meanness and Romans feeding the lions mentality that must be put away for good first.


Gerald said...

Nazi America's idol is George the War Pimp Bush.!!!!!

DEN said...

The assault on liberties–Who’s really responsible?

By Barry Lando

03/05/07 "ICH" -- - You have to read the New York Times editorial for Sunday, March 5th. It’s a list of measures the Bush administration has put in place over the past five years that taken together add up to an astonishing attack against what we used to consider America’s most basic constitutional principles.

The Times calls for Congress to take immediate action to reverse the situation. The editorial, however, should be calling for Congress—and the media– to do much, much more.

Read the rest here.


Gerald said...

Valor and Squalor

DEN said...

Hey, Under-30s Crowd, Have You Overdosed on Narcissism?
By Clayton Collins, Christian Science Monitor
Posted on March 6, 2007,

A little smug self-absorption might be a time-honored trait of at least some subsets of the under-30 crowd.

But over the past few decades the prevailing disposition among college students -- today labeled Generation Y or Millennials -- has slid into full-blown narcissism, according to a study released this week.

The "all about me" shift means much more than lots of traffic at self-revelatory Web sites such as YouTube and Facebook. It points, says the study's author, to a generation's lack of empathy, its inability to form relationships -- and worse.

Read more here.


Gerald said...

On the Cheap

Gerald said...

Privatizing Walter Reed

Gerald said...

Let's give more and bigger tax breaks to the wealthy. Let's use our soldiers as cannon fodder to protect the asses of the wealthy as well.

Alan said...

Well, I still haven't seen the sentence range for each charge, only the top end, not the bottom. You know, like "2 to 5-years", which means 2 is the least and 5 the most. In this article below from the NYTimes, it said the guidelines (whatever they are) are not mandatory any more. Then says lawyers with experience in that federal crime area say it'll prolly be a 20 to 27-month sentence... which is close to Gerald's first prediction if you leave off his parole comment. Here, I'll paste those two short grafs...
Judge Reggie B. Walton, who presided over the four weeks of testimony and presentation of evidence, set sentencing for June 5. Under complicated sentencing guidelines that are no longer mandatory, Judge Walton has wide discretion in setting a prison term.

But lawyers not involved in the case who are experienced in the issue of sentencing calculated that under the guidelines, Mr. Libby might be sentenced to 20 to 27 months.

Libby Guilty of Lying in C.I.A. Leak Case
To me, that low of a sentence doesn't 'add up'. It seems low for something that could add up to 25 years. They must be going on one charge and letting the other sentences run concurrent, instead of consecutive.

Alan said...

LOL @ Steven Colbert's short clip at "Crooks..." about the Libby trial. It's only 1½ minutes... worth the wait for the dial-ups.
*funniest part is how he says he gets out of jury duty

Alan said...

Partial quote from John Q. Barrett, a former Iran-Contra prosecutor...

If the jury was right that Libby lied, Barrett said, "he's now sitting wherever he is with cold sweat and troubled stomach and truth that he hasn't told. . . . Whatever the chips, if he held them and didn't lay them down, this may be the moment to decide."

DEN said...

The question is, will Scooter squeal?

Facing hard time in the joint, people do funny things.

Fingers crossed!

DEN said...

Of course he might have a "heart attack" too.

Or another mysterious demise.

Micki said...

Alan, Fitzgerald said in a press conference on October 28, 2005, according to a transcript in WaPo (on that date), in part:

"....So plenty of room, but there's no mandatory minimum. It's zero to 50 years, and that would be a judge's decision."

DEN said...

Pentagon Whistle-Blower on the Coming War With Iran

Posted on Feb 27, 2007
Karen Kwiatkowski

Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski (ret.), a veteran of the Pentagon with firsthand experience of the administration’s cherry-picking of intelligence, reveals why Bush thinks he can win a war with Iran, why few politicians are serious about withdrawal and why “when they call Iraq a success, they mean it.”

Read the rest here.

A very interesting look into the goings on with this neo-con crowd.

Micki said...

Whatever Libby's sentence ends up to be, there's a high probability that he'll eventually get pardoned. I hope evidence that was uncovered in Libby's trial feeds the civil suit filed by Valerie and Joe Wilson.

It's time for Congress to investigate dick cheney.

If Congress begins an investigation of cheney, Scooter Libby may want to go into the witness protection program.

DEN said...

The pardon issue has been discussed and the determination that should the Chimpster pardon the Scootster it would do more damage to the Prez, specially since he and the Cainster are on thin ice now.

Pardon? Nope!

Alan said...

Welp, the speculation is a pardon wouldn't be 'prudent' until the day after the '08 elections. That period when bush is the lamest of a lame duck before the next administration is sworn in, and after voters could hold it against his party. Libby's lawyers have a hella job ahead of him to drag the appeal out THAT LONG. I mean, I'd be willing to bet that the new trial won't wash, so it's on to the appellate court.
As for sentencing, since the judge isn't held to any mandated sentence, let's hope he's pissed at Libby for not testifying. They went through weeks of CIPA hearings to decide what could and couldn't get in to trial and the judge allowed alot more in based on their statements that Libby would testify. A long tedious process for nothing since the defense changed their mind. Put another way, Libby 'n lawyers pulled a fast one on the judge.

DEN said...

Alan, yea the pardons usually fly after the elections, Gerald Ford went to his grave with the Nixon pardon haunting his azz.

Picking the sentence length is fools play, no one knows, period.

Guessing is a Vegas "odds" game and thats it.

Micki said...

Condoleezza Rice and bush are scheduled to make an announcement of a new effort dubbed, "The Improved New Way Forward" in Iraq. High level administration officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the plan will include giving the Iraqis a "full-complement" of WMDs similar to the ones they claimed were in that country prior to the illegal invasion four years ago.

One administration official said, "We're just going to give them the damned weapons and get the hell out of there. Let them sort it out."

Rice said privately, according to the source, that "this is the kind of gutsy move that bush really gets a kick out of, so we're going with it. He's made many important decisions based on his 'gut instincts' so this is not out of the ordinary for the president."

The official said"The Improved New Way Forward"is not expected to bring positive results any time soon in Iraq, but the plan includes a public relations/marketing plan that will focus on war as peace in the coming decades.

Micki said...

just kidding....

David B. Benson said...

War as peace in the coming decades:

Climate wars!

Gerald said...

Libby deserves a 25 year sentence without the possibility of parole. It is not just for his lies. His lies have helped many of our servicemen and women to die in Iraq. The Iraq war is wrong and immoral!!!!! Tragedy, a total tragedy!!!!!

There will be wars fought over water in the years ahead. Wars are here to stay forever!!!!! Wars are the Nazi American way.

David B. Benson said...

Den --- Somehow your main thread today reminds me of the last days of the Roman Republic...

Gerald said...

We are a loveless empite.

This is the loveless void in which our history has become embedded, from which no release can be expected by those unwilling to engage in critical thought that hopes that real humanity can be regained, rather than accepting the false humanity which Satan makes so enticing.

Gerald said...

We are a loveless EMPIRE.

Gerald said...

No Power But Powerlessness

David B. Benson said...

Unh. The most worthwhile accomplishment today was to read the Wikipedia page of the history of science in South Asia (India). Quite good.

As for the rest, well, tomorrow is another day...

DEN said...

Dr. Benson, that impression was deliberate and along with the couple of articles I put into comments, define it.

We have become a selfish/self-absorbed society, much like the arrogant days of the Roman empire.

Unfortunately we 'dance with fools' and are outnumbered.

We are basically doomed. Nothing good will come out of the huge carbon footprint we have left on this once fully balanced planet.

The wars and turmoils and corresponding environmental and human destruction will have led us into the abyss of no return for all.

Too bad, it was such a beautiful place, Planet Earth.

I love the birds, and the flowers, and the rivers, and the..........

DEN said...

We must not give up hope that through diligence and persistence, at least postpone the inevitable, do our part to lessen the damage created in the future.

It will take centuries to reverse the damage we have done, however we CAN stop making it worse.

Jeanne said...

Den, I too found the interview with
Karen Kwiatkowski intersting. What was interesting was her take on Iran. The fly boys what a piece of the action and the navy so they will be eager to be involved in a war with Iran.

The thing that makes me think otherwise however it that at this stage with poll numbers so low on Iraq why would you want your service people involed in a new war. The wrath of the people would undoubtably fall back in their face because they could have stopped it by advising the president very very strongly against it.

DEN said...

Jeanne, the neo-cons are driven to war to establish their version of how the Middle East should be, subserviant to the Corporatocracy of the 'New World Order' not the corporates submitting to OPEC demands.

When is the last time you heard OPEC being mentioned anywhere?

DEN said...


Micki said...

Sorry for the shouting to come......


Regarding Walter Reed:

To cut costs, the support services and facilities management at Walter Reed were outsourced to a company called IAP -- which is run by a former Halliburton official and whose board members include Dan Quayle. IAP is the same contractor that came up short for relief services for Katrina victims.

Every time bush cuts corners as the "war president," our troops suffer the consequences.

bush is grossly negligent as the Commander-in-Chief by outsourcing and privatizing services to political patrons and hacks -- bush has been the MAN AT THE TOP WHO HAS GIVEN GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS TO PENNY-PINCHING, BOTTOM LINE ORIENTED CONTRACTORS, WHO ARE NOT SUBJECT TO ANY ACCOUNTABILITY.

He's a crook. He's a loser. He's a liar. He's incompetent. He's a more. He's amoral. He is the worst president in the history of the United States.

I just had to get that out of my system for the night....

Micki said...

He's a more. Oops

He's a moron.

ยบ¿carol said...

Micki, I believe that was an "nonbinding" rant.

Micki said...

Well, I sure as hell wish something would be BINDING!

Micki said...

New Revelations from Former 'Wash Post' Reporter/Libby Juror

By Joe Strupp

Published: March 07, 2007 5:05 PM ET updated Wednesday

NEW YORK Denis Collins, the juror in the Libby/CIA leak case who delivered a post-verdict commentary for the press, spent about a decade at The Washington Post. Today, after a night on cable TV shows, he re-appears with a massive recounting of his experience at the Huffington Post blog.

His story is billed as "INSIDE THE JURY ROOM: WHAT THE JURY THOUGHT, DAY BY DAY, WITNESS BY WITNESS, AT THE SCOOTER LIBBY TRIAL" by Denis Collins, Juror #9. It calls it "unedited" impressions, memories and facts. Other jurors' names are changed.

The New York Times today reports that he is a registered Democrat. He recalls that he revealed when considered for the jury that he had worked with Bob Woodward for three or four years and also with the Post's Walter Pincus, another witness at the trial. Until a year ago, Tim Russert was a neighbor and he even attended backyard barbeques at Russert's place. But attorneys at both tables merely offered "ain't this a small town" grins, he relates.

One of the lawyers asked him the subject of his 2005 book. "You wrote about the CIA?" Collins said yes, which along with his reporting connections amounted to the "perfect storm." He comments: "Yet here I am," on the CIA leak case jury.

He says that he felt he had "absolutely no chance to be selected" for the jury and may have even bet someone $1000 that he would not be.

He adds that he went to grade school with the Times' Maureen Dowd, who allegedly had a crush on Collins' brother. He later recommended to Bob Woodward that the Post hire her away from the old Washington Star, but he disagreed.

New York Times reporter John Tierney came to Collins' wedding and "in a red, lounge-lizard coat with fake velvet collar, recited 'Feelings' into a hand held microphone." Collins knew Mike Isikoff, now at Newsweek -- and co-author of the recent book partly about the case, "Hubris" -- when both were at the Post, and Isikoff once stayed with Collins in San Francisco.

Collins goes through witness by witness and offers opinions on the attorneys and the judge, and other jurors. He says most jurors considered Ari Fleischer "Slick Willie" and not believable. "I wondered if Libby's attorneys advised him to keep out of the sun, to emphasize the 'tireless worker for the public good' look," he recalls.

On Judith Miller: "The defense was so aggressive in attacking Miller's memory, it created sympathy among the jurors." One juror commented: "She was the most stressed-out witness, but had no motive to lie."

More: "As celebrities go, the jury favorite seems to be NPR’s Nina Totenberg. Everyday Nina."

He also writes about "the Runaway Juror" who was later bounced off the case: "She broke the first rule by flashing another juror a page in her notebook during court testimony. Fortunately the message, 'Look at that eye candy in the third row!' wasn't top secret stuff."

Yesterday, E&P published the first full report on Collins' background at The Washington Post, where he covered both metro news and sports, and spent time on the copy desk, according to editors at the paper.

The longtime journalist, 57, who has also written for The Miami Herald and the San Jose Mercury New, was recalled as smart,
hardworking and energetic, although not always "coloring within the lines."

The jury convicted Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the former chief aide to Vice President Cheney, on four of five counts today, including perjury and obstruction of justice. Collins, whose identity was not known until today, came out of the courthouse and spoke to the press, saying that as a former reporter he felt this was the right thing to do.

Cable TV news commentators noted the irony of a former reporter becoming chief jury spokesman -- at least today -- in a trial where reporters played such a central role. Some also wondered how someone who had written a book on spying (including the CIA variety) had made it on this jury.

In the jury selection phase, before Collins name came out, he was identified as having worked with Bob Woodward at the Post and being a neighbor of NBC's Tim Russert. Both would later testify in the case.

"Every experience I had with Denis was absolutely positive and professional, a delightful person," recalled George Solomon, the former sports editor who retired in 2003 after 28 years at the Post. "Very flexible, willing to do
whatever it took to do the job."

A review of Post archives finds hundreds of stories by Collins dating back to the early 1980s, with many related to sports, but others involving travel, karate, Nerfball, a profile of comedian Bob Goldthwait, and a wide array of other subjects.

Solomon said Colllins was most interested in the outdoors beat, which he took over on occasion, although he also covered baseball and football. "His greatest interest was covering hiking and camping and running rather than the standard hunting and fishing fare," Solomon said.

Tom Wilkinson, a post assistant managing editor who has been at the paper since 1969, called Collins enthusiastic, and "not always coloring within the lines, which is okay...I remember him being a pretty good reporter, an independent guy," Wilkinson added. "He had his own sense of what stories are, occasionally hard to reel in." lists at least two recent books by Collins, "Nora's Army," about a Bonus camp in 1932 Washington, D.C.; and "SPYING: The Secret History of History."

Asked if he would want Collins on his jury, Solomon said, "There are a lot of people who worked for me I would not want to decide my fate." But he then added, "he is a reasonable, smart and fair guy. Who else would you want on a jury?"

Later, on Larry King's CNN show, Collins said he would write about the trial, but "I'm not sure of format or where it will be." He added that he "never expected to be accepted to serve on the jury." He also admitted he was not "one of the lions" on the jury.

Fox News host John Gibson expressed surprise today that the defense allowed 1) a reporter and 2) someone who has written about the CIA, to be on this particular case.

Micki said...

I was too lazy to link.

Alan said...

This poll at will prolly be gone by the time any of y'all see this, but check out these results... and note how many ppl voted.
How will history judge President Bush?
Not at all favorably 79%
Somewhat favorably 11%
Very favorably 10%
Total Votes: 193,222

How will history judge Vice President Cheney?
Not at all favorably 83%
Somewhat favorably 9%
Very favorably 7%
Total Votes: 191,778

How much will the Libby trial affect history's view of Bush?
A lot 45%
A little 38%
Not at all 17%
Total Votes: 179,044

How much will the Libby trial affect history's view of Cheney?
A lot 72%
A little 17%
Not at all 11%
Total Votes: 178,165

How will history judge their initial reaction to the 9/11 attacks?
Not at all favorably 39%
Very favorably 32%
Somewhat favorably 29%
Total Votes: 165,989

How will history judge their handling of national security?
Not at all favorably 70%
Somewhat favorably 17%
Very favorably 14%
Total Votes: 165,359

How will history judge their handling of the war in Afghanistan?
Not at all favorably 70%
Somewhat favorably 19%
Very favorably 11%
Total Votes: 88,932

How will history judge their handing of the war in Iraq?
Not at all favorably 88%
Very favorably 6%
Somewhat favorably 6%
Total Votes: 90,590

How will history judge their energy policy?
Not at all favorably 87%
Somewhat favorably 8%
Very favorably 6%
Total Votes: 82,198

How will history judge their tax policy?
Not at all favorably 75%
Somewhat favorably 14%
Very favorably 12%
Total Votes: 83,429

How will history judge their handling of the media?
Not at all favorably 81%
Somewhat favorably 12%
Very favorably 7%
Total Votes: 85,076

How will history judge their handling of civil liberties?
Not at all favorably 84%
Somewhat favorably 8%
Very favorably 8%
Total Votes: 81,025

How will history judge their handling of social issues?
Not at all favorably 85%
Somewhat favorably 7%
Very favorably 7%
Total Votes: 82,109

Micki said...

Alan, all in all, they are miserable failures.

Too bad more voters didn't see that in '04 -- fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice....

But, I was NEVER fooled by the bastards! I loathed bush and dick cheney long before they were handed the keys to the WH.