Sunday, April 29, 2007

The Boot!

Rep. John Murtha

President George W. Bush could face impeachment if he continues to refuse to deal with Congress on setting a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, Democratic Congressman John Murtha said Sunday.

Appearing on CBS News's Face the Nation, Murtha said impeachment is "one of the options" for dealing with Bush's refusal to accept a timetable for withdrawal of troops from the President's failed war in Iraq.

Murtha's comments came after Secretary of State Condi Rice told host Bob Schieffer that Bush will not only veto any Iraq funding bill that sets a timetable for withdrawal but would also reject any bill that sets "benchmarks" for the Iraqi qovernment.

Rice said the president would not agree to a plan that penalizes Baghdad if the Iraqi government fall shorts. To do so, she said, would remove the ability of Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, and other leaders to do their jobs.

"What we don't want to do is to tie our own hands so that we cannot act creatively and flexibly to support the very policies in Iraq that we're trying to enforce," Rice said.

Rather, Rice said, it makes sense to give Iraq's leaders time to meet the goals they have set. She said Bush has made clear to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that people in the United States have limited patience.

"The United States is paying in blood and treasure," Rice said. "The Iraqi leadership is being told — and I think they understand — that the kind of Iraq there is going to be is up to them. We can't give them a united Iraq."

@ Capitol Hill Blue

That nasty "I" word again, being bandied about with no hope of making it stick without the Repugs on board.

Bloody Kristol was repeating his war mantra on C-Span, tell you what Mr. Blood, get a flak vest and a gun an YOU see how easy it is to get you azz blown off over there!

My message to Congress:



Gerald said...

Do you recall the repugs restating that the Democrats waste money? Well, Posters, from Reagan to now the repugs have squander our money and our human potential with incessant lies. Invading Iraq was not in the best interest of the USA. It was in the best interest of Nazi Israel.

Gerald said...

Democrats, here is my message to you and it reminds me of a saying, "EITHER SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!" LESS TALK ABOUT IMPEACHMENT AND MORE ACTION ON IMPEACHMENT!

The NY Times has an article that the projects in Iraq are crumbling! Leave it to that flunky Bush and his useless and pathetic life! Bush is a loser, a total loser.

We need to hold another puke fest!!!

Gerald said...

Heal the wounds that we have made

Gerald said...

"On April 11, 2007, the Red Cross issued a report entitled 'Civilians without Protection: the ever-worsening humanitarian crisis in Iraq.' Citing 'immense suffering,' it calls 'urgently' for ' respect for international humanitarian law.' Andrew White, Anglican Vicar of Baghdad added, "What we see on our television screens does not demonstrate even one per cent of the reality of the atrocity of Iraq."

No flags have been flown half staffed for the hundreds of daily murders in the streets of Iraq. How can this be? Our Christian leaders continue by their silence to proclaim, "What have they to do with me? I have no responsibility to defend the innocent unless they stand in my pews and sing praises to the God I worship."

"My experiences in Iraq made my convictions stronger... In the end I felt that I had to listen to my conscience." - Agustin Aguayo


Gerald said...

"He was bleeding. I’m looking down at his eyes, and he looked up at me. It was an intense moment. I feel like this communication, questions he might have been feeling or asking. Like, 'why did he get shot?' 'Why does it hurt so much?' 'Why are we there?' 'What’s going on?' 'Why is this happening to him?' I was asking these questions… I was on the same team of people that just took this person’s life so casually and unnecessarily..." - Ricky Clousing

Why do we take the lives of our brothers and sisters in God so casually and unnecessarily?

Gerald said...

Staying Tuned for Further Direction

It was April of 1994, and Maryknoll missionary Rev. Daniel Ohmann was listening to a report about war in the African countries of Rwanda and Burundi. At the time, he was in nearby Tanzania.

“The reporter asked a refugee what the people needed,” Father Ohmann recalls. “The man’s reply, ‘Send us some priests.’”

And so Father Ohmann went to a part of western Tanzania four miles from Burundi; six from Rwanda. As many as 250,000 refugees a day were pouring into the area to escape the murderous warfare ravaging Burundi and Rwanda.

“I didn’t see the violence itself, but I certainly saw its aftermath,” explained the Catholic priest. “UN agencies (were) providing food and shelter, so we were able to devote most of our time to spiritual concerns.”

The horror of warfare demands that we “tune in” to how we can be instruments of God’s peace. Listen!

Sacrifice and offering You do not desire, but… an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering You have not required. Then I said…I delight to do Your will, O my God. (Psalm 40:6-7)

Prince of Peace, hasten that day when wars shall have ceased and the world shall brim over with Your “shalom.”

Gerald said...

Finding God’s Will

Even when we want to do God’s will, it isn’t always easy.

James Ingram grew up believing that he was called to be a minister. He entered a seminary and became a pastor in rural Virginia for twelve years. But he kept asking himself, “Is this where I’m supposed to be?”

So he became a business executive. Realizing this life was not for him, Ingram prayed, “Father, I promise to follow Your will in all I do.” Returning to Virginia, he visited Colonial Williamsburg and finally found the right job. As an historical interpreter, his role is that of Gowan Pamphlet, a real slave in the mid 1700’s, who became a minister and founded Williamsburg’s first black Baptist church.

Says Ingram, “Here I am in the twenty-first century telling the story of preacher Gowan Pamphlet, and living my own, exactly where God meant me to be.”

Seek God’s will with your whole heart.

To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed than the fat of rams. For rebellion is no less a sin than divination, and stubbornness is like iniquity and idolatry. (1 Samuel 15:22-23)

Lead me in the way of obedience to You, Your Will, Holy Lord.

Gerald said...

Another True Hero

Gerald said...

The Army rejected Aguayo's bid for CO discharge during his year in Iraq, so he filed a habeas corpus after returning to a base in Germany, stating: "My conscientious objection applies to all forms and aspects of the war. An Officer once explained to me how in his view the Army was like a huge machine made of many parts that all work together to achieve the desired outcome. I know this is true. If the desired outcome is killing, I cannot be part of the 'machine.'"

Gerald said...


Gerald said...

1984, Here We Come

Gerald said...

Phil Donahue was cancelled rather promptly as the war began because he was opposing the administration, and now Rosie O'Donnell is "voluntarily" removing her opinions from daytime television. How much longer will Keith Olbermann last? And then who is next? Jon Stewart? Stephen Colbert? It seems that the noose is drawing more tightly as the most outspoken critics of the administration are being deprived of their public voices. What's next? Tapping our phones? We have that. Monitoring our computers? Done! Censoring our television? Completed! Monitors on our streets? Coming right up. Listening devices in our pillows? Don't be too sure.

Gerald said...

Army chief wants to speed up more troops into Iraq

It looks like a Vietnam war all over again.

David B. Benson said...

Odom spoke quite well.

(On the previous thread)


Gerald said...

The Army has set 2012 as its target date for a force expansion to 547,000 troops, but Gen. George Casey said Saturday that he has told his staff to have the soldiers ready earlier.

It looks like we will have endless global wars to all the corners of our planet.

Nazi America is at the forefront as a killing machine.

Nazi America will unleash nuclear weapons in their wars around the world in order to protect Nazi Americans sorry asses.

Gerald said...

Below is a transcript of his remarks:

"Good morning, this is Lieutenant General William E. Odom, U.S. Army, retired.

"I am not now nor have I ever been a Democrat or a Republican. Thus, I do not speak for the Democratic Party. I speak for myself, as a non-partisan retired military officer who is a former Director of the National Security Agency. I do so because Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, asked me.

"In principle, I do not favor Congressional involvement in the execution of U.S. foreign and military policy. I have seen its perverse effects in many cases. The conflict in Iraq is different. Over the past couple of years, the President has let it proceed on automatic pilot, making no corrections in the face of accumulating evidence that his strategy is failing and cannot be rescued.

"Thus, he lets the United States fly further and further into trouble, squandering its influence, money, and blood, facilitating the gains of our enemies. The Congress is the only mechanism we have to fill this vacuum in command judgment.

"To put this in a simple army metaphor, the Commander-in-Chief seems to have gone AWOL, that is 'absent without leave.' He neither acts nor talks as though he is in charge. Rather, he engages in tit-for-tat games.

"Some in Congress on both sides of the aisle have responded with their own tits-for-tats. These kinds of games, however, are no longer helpful, much less amusing. They merely reflect the absence of effective leadership in a crisis. And we are in a crisis.

"Most Americans suspect that something is fundamentally wrong with the President's management of the conflict in Iraq. And they are right.

"The challenge we face today is not how to win in Iraq; it is how to recover from a strategic mistake: invading Iraq in the first place. The war could never have served American interests.

"But it has served Iran's interest by revenging Saddam Hussein's invasion of Iran in the 1980s and enhancing Iran's influence within Iraq. It has also served al Qaeda's interests, providing a much better training ground than did Afghanistan, allowing it to build its ranks far above the levels and competence that otherwise would have been possible.

"We cannot 'win' a war that serves our enemies interests and not our own. Thus continuing to pursue the illusion of victory in Iraq makes no sense. We can now see that it never did.

"A wise commander in this situation normally revises his objectives and changes his strategy, not just marginally, but radically. Nothing less today will limit the death and destruction that the invasion of Iraq has unleashed.

"No effective new strategy can be devised for the United States until it begins withdrawing its forces from Iraq. Only that step will break the paralysis that now confronts us. Withdrawal is the pre-condition for winning support from countries in Europe that have stood aside and other major powers including India, China, Japan, Russia.

"It will also shock and change attitudes in Iran, Syria, and other countries on Iraq's borders, making them far more likely to take seriously new U.S. approaches, not just to Iraq, but to restoring regional stability and heading off the spreading chaos that our war has caused.

"The bill that Congress approved this week, with bipartisan support, setting schedules for withdrawal, provides the President an opportunity to begin this kind of strategic shift, one that defines regional stability as the measure of victory, not some impossible outcome.

"I hope the President seizes this moment for a basic change in course and signs the bill the Congress has sent him. I will respect him greatly for such a rare act of courage, and so too, I suspect, will most Americans.

"This is retired General Odom. Thank you for listening."

Gerald said...

"No effective new strategy can be devised for the United States until it begins withdrawing its forces from Iraq. Only that step will break the paralysis that now confronts us. Withdrawal is the pre-condition for winning support from countries in Europe that have stood aside and other major powers including India, China, Japan, Russia."

Carey said...


From yesterday's thread and the Nicholas Kristof column:


Every little thing they did wrong. They left no stone unturned in their incompetence.

Excellence in ferocious ineptitude.


Thank you for all of your fine posts. I particularly liked the quote from Kennedy. Interesting that he would say that, isn't it? He foretold the horrendous draft situation of Vietnam in a way. Still, that quote runs much, much deeper.

micki said...



micki said...

4:59! Both of us!

micki said...

Al Gore Calls Canadian Climate Plan a FRAUD

micki said...

Here's an interesting tidbit from Frank Rich's column today -- he writes that the New York Times will no longer attend the White House Correspondents Association dinners in Washington.

Good! No organization should attend!

David B. Benson said...

It was Den's idea. How about a variant?

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Carey said...


You get the New York Times, don't you?

micki said...

You get the New York Times, don't you?

Not delivered to my doorstep any more...but I do read it online and subscribe to TimesSelect, behind the wall.

Carey said...

Yes, that's what I meant, the Times Select Service.

If I get you to watch one thing, Micki, it's going to be Planet Earth. You, Bill, the entire family will really crave the incredible photography.

Here's the website for purchasing the Planet Earth DVDs: / ph: 1 800 709-8485

$11.95 each

micki said...

Thanks for the tip on Planet Earth, Carey.

Being a non-TV viewer I have no idea if it's already been distributed on cable -- have you seen the series already on The Discovery Channel?

I did look at the website and it looks enticing...