Wednesday, April 11, 2007

Help Wanted


Black Sabbath

Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death’s construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds, oh lord yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor

Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait ’till their judgement day comes, yeah!

Now in darkness, world stops turning
As the war machine keeps burning
No more war pigs of the power
Hand of God has sturck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings
All right now.


Must pass 'loyal bushie' test
Must be able to work with no supervision
Must have prior experience with death and destruction

Apply at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington DC


The White House wants to appoint a high-powered czar to oversee the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with authority to issue directions to the Pentagon, the State Department and other agencies, but it has had trouble finding anyone able and willing to take the job, according to people close to the situation.

At least three retired four-star generals approached by the White House in recent weeks have declined to be considered for the position, the sources said, underscoring the administration's difficulty in enlisting its top recruits to join the team after five years of warfare that have taxed the United States and its military.

"The very fundamental issue is, they don't know where the hell they're going," said retired Marine Gen. John J. "Jack" Sheehan, a former top NATO commander who was among those rejecting the job. Sheehan said he believes that Vice President Cheney and his hawkish allies remain more powerful within the administration than pragmatists looking for a way out of Iraq. "So rather than go over there, develop an ulcer and eventually leave, I said, 'No, thanks,' " he said.



micki said...

Panel Said to Alter Finding on Voter Fraud

Now, I have to read what Den posted....

micki said...

Well, excuse me...but don't we have The War President, the Commander-in-Chief, the first MBA president, The Decider at the helm?

Sounds to me like the busheviks are looking for a scapegoat because they've f**ked up so bad with their senseless, ill-conceived war they want to pass the buck.

I hope NO ONE takes this stooopid CZAR job.

micki said...

Oh, and I just love their choice of words...CZAR.

Some say the word CZAR is the same as IMPERATOR which means a commander in chief or emporer.

So, what does that make bush -- chopped liver?

I wish.

DEN said...

Change of focus needed away from the Criminal-in-Chief to some poor sot dumb enough to take a turn in the hot seat.

Not since the early days of Russia has there been so many Czars.

Drug Czars, War Czars, Diaper Czars.

Shirking responsibility is a known trait of GWB.

DEN said...

Imus is one of the few things that rhymes with anus,

both are a**holes.

micki said...

Speaking of Imus, did you see that Proctor & Gamble and Staples, Inc. pulled their sponsorship? And Bigelow Tea says that fture sponsorship is in "jeopardy." Huh? Future? Pull it for goshsakes!

DEN said...

Yes, isn't it wonderful!

Howard Cosell comes to mind.

DEN said...

Cosell drew criticism during one Monday Night Football telecast in September 1983, for stating "that little monkey gets loose, doesn't he,"

micki said...

Yesterday afternoon we went to a talk at WWU by Ethan Bronner, the deputy foreign editor of the New York Times -- “War and Terror: how the New York Times covers today’s big global conflicts."

He writes often on Israeli-Arab issues and earned a Pulitzer Prize for his editing work on a post 9/11 series of articles on Al Qaeda.

It was an interesting talk as was the Q&A. Sorry to say, though, most of the questions were in the accusative "gotcha" mode. Bronner handled each question well, IMO.

DEN said...

Micki, I went to the WWU site and found neat pics of the area, tried to get some stuff on Ethans work but the NYT is not forthcoming with it's articles.

DEN said...

I like this:

Bellingham, City of Subdued Excitement.

º¿carol said...

Doesn't matter who takes what job in that administration. They're all yes-men and not allowed to make their own decisions. Everyone blamed Rumsfeld for everything when he was just following orders. That's my opinion.

Whoever takes the new czar job will not be able to make decisions either, but he'll be the one they can blame and kick out eventually. Like you said, Micki, scapegoat.

micki said...

Den, yeah, we love our town's slogan!

All Bellinghamsters do!

Carol -- Bingo! Yup, give 'em a good yes man! Time was there were lots of "yes-men" in the military.

Carol said...

The Imus thing is WAY overblown and it makes me sick. I've listened to some people on TV bloviating about how horrible, how awful he is and nothing will satisfy them as to what punishment he should be showered with. Would people be happy if he was tarred and feathered, drawn and quartered, his entrails cut out then hung until dead? How about his head on a pike after all that as a reminder to watch our "free speech" mouths?

During all this people have continued to die in Iraq and that asshole is still in the White House fucking the world up every which way he can.

I debated speaking my mind the last couple days because I know you'll all disagree with me, but I finally had to put my two cents in. Imus said something people didn't like. They gave him hell and suspended him from his job. I think that's enough punishment now let's move on.

Alan said...

At the end of yesterday's thread, Micki said this...

Most of us would rather do something than give up.

We're not quitters.

I swear, the person she was saying that to reminds me so much of the Saturday Night Live character Debbie Downer. She's consistently a 'gloomy gus' on a range of topics. ugh!
Two things stand out in today's H-town Chronicle. A big study of the FBI by the Seattle Post-Intelligencer shows that bush's transfer of hundreds of agents to 'homeland security' has left gaping holes in prosecutions of criminals doing fraud, white-collar crimes, identity theft, etc... First Ashcroft, then Abu Gonzales has turned down the FBI's director for replacement agents. So yeah, fraudsters big and small have had a free rein. Anyone surprised?? Google the story and see the article. In the paper there's pie charts and graphics showing the numbers.
Second thing is... since the media got involved and forced their hand, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has personally got involved with the result being that the two guards at the West Texas juvenile facility that were abusing inmates have been indicted on state felony charges. Some charges carry up to 20 year sentences and some only 2, but it could be 2 for each count... and at least one has 9 of those counts.
That's all for now. I'ma open/sign on to AOL to check some mail.

DEN said...

Carol we are with you on that, there are priorities for sure and the rising death toll in Iraq should be on top.

Imus=Doofus, entertainment news stuff

The urgency to end this so-called war is on everyones mind except the people that can do something about it.

Death and profits are up!

DEN said...

The Next Bush Scandal?

By Dan Froomkin
Special to
Tuesday, April 10, 2007; 1:34 PM

The slowly-unfolding disclosure that some White House aides use non-government e-mail servers to conduct official business may soon be reaching scandal proportions.

As John D. McKinnon writes in today's Wall Street Journal (subscription required): "The widespread use of private email accounts by some top White House officials is sparking a congressional probe into the practice and whether it violates a post-Nixon law requiring that White House deliberations be documented.

"A top Democratic lawmaker says outside email accounts were used in an attempt to avoid scrutiny; the White House says their purpose was to avoid using government resources for political activities, although they were used to discuss the firing of U.S. attorneys."

Most of the e-mail accounts at issue are on Republican National Committee servers. For instance: "Susan Ralston, until recently presidential adviser Karl Rove's assistant at the White House, appears to have used at least four outside email accounts: a 'gwb' domain account, a '' account, and an '' account -- all run by the RNC -- plus an AOL account. She once emailed two associates of lobbyist Jack Abramoff, 'I now have an RNC blackberry which you can use to e-mail me at any time. No security issues like my WH email.' . . .


Things just cannot happen fast enough to suit me, BOOT THE A**HOLES!

Alan said...

I think Carol wanted to link this short clip for Gerald to see... but she was having trouble getting it to work.

Family Guy - The Creation of life on Earth

It's only a minute clip so the dialups can see it too.

DEN said...

Alan, and combined with my previous comment is poetic in nature(no pun intended of course).

º¿carol said...

Thank you, Alan! I don't know why, but I would link it and the main You Tube page would come up every time. I tried linking other Family Guy videos from My Space and they linked fine. Can't imagine what went wrong.

Gerald, I hope you liked that one. It took two of us to get that on here for ya.

ò¿óarol said...

I just had some lunch with the TV on, surfed between the two CNNs and it was Imus, Imus, Imus. Seems there's a demonstration by students on the Rutgers' campus. Imagine that. Where were they when Bush wanted to invade Iraq?

Then there was all the interviewing of people about it. You would think Imus was the third anti-christ. The scarriest part about this Imus scandal is how much & fast the sheeple can be whipped up into a frenzy about something. VERY scary. It's a pity the media has not used that kind of power to whip them up about important things of which the list is practically endless!!!

I was thinking that if I were Imus, I would blow my brains out. Just to make everyone happy.

DEN said...

Carol, sheeple on the move!

Gerald said...

"The very fundamental issue is, they don't know where the hell they're going," said retired Marine Gen. John J. "Jack" Sheehan, a former top NATO commander who was among those rejecting the job. Sheehan said he believes that Vice President Cheney and his hawkish allies remain more powerful within the administration than pragmatists looking for a way out of Iraq. "So rather than go over there, develop an ulcer and eventually leave, I said, 'No, thanks,' " he said.

I have applied for the war czar job! I will wait to be called before the Senate hearings committe. I will be honest with the questions. I don't know where we are going in this endless Iraq war but I do know that we are headed for the abyss of hell and I would want my answers on record.

As the war czar I will call for a meeting with all Middle Eastern nations and two areas will be stressed. 1. a non-aggression pact against any Middle Eastern nation and 2. all countries will strive to enhance the quality of life for all persons in the region.

My czarship will take a new approach.

My question for Dr. James Hansen is "How do you influence the government with goons and thugs running our asylums?"

People who believe in the big bang theory of creation do not believe in God. How I arrived here is not that important to me. Personally, I am here now and my path can lead either to heaven or hell. We have a free will to decide. I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS A HEAVEN BUT I PRAY THAT THERE IS NO HELL.

Gerald said...

Israel will be asked to attend this meeting and sign a non-aggression pact as well. I will also discuss that these nations strive to break away from Nazi America's grip that is strangling the region. Staying close to Nazi America will mean that the evil empire will forever have an evil grip on the region.

As the war czar I will strive to have Nazi America regain some trust in the area. Hatred for Nazi America is warranted and justified but I will try to work with the nations and hopefully some trust will be established.

Gerald said...

I will break the state of denial that Nazi America in not a nation of murderers and war criminals. I will shout it out to all areas of the region that Nazi America is a nation of murderers and war criminals. With that state of denial removed we can work openly and honestly.

Negotiations will take place in a communal bathroom with all participants sitting on toilets. The vision of seeing people sitting on a toilet leaves the impression of a common humanity to all members participating.

Gerald said...

Forgotten children of Baghdad

Nazi America talks about family values. Anyone who believes that Nazi America believes in family values is brain dead. Nazi America HATES children that is why 50 million people have no health insurance and that is why our waters are polluted with mercury and 16% of our children are intellectually challenged. That is why we use deleted uranium so children in the world can be born deformed.

º¿carol said...

Gerald, did you like the video or not? I know how much you like fart jokes.

Gerald said...

Benedict vs. the War Party

Good start but the Pope must remain quite vocal against the evils of the world that clearly centers around Nazi America and her unending evil force and grip on the world.

Gerald said...

I do enjoy fart jokes but to bring a caricature of God into the mix does not sit well with me.

For me God is to be HONORED, PRAISED, AND THANKED!!!

Gerald said...

I have five brochures or pamphlets regarding fart jokes and stories. When I was in college, I never seemed to have the coordination to light a fart. I was broken hearted because I could only farted.

Gerald said...

I have five brochures or pamphlets regarding fart jokes and stories. When I was in college, I never seemed to have the coordination to light a fart. I was broken hearted because I could only farted.

º¿carol said...

Honor, praise and thank away then. You missed the humor by being so darn serious. Sheesh.

DEN said...

Carol, I thought it was quite hilariously funny, thanks.

Gerald said...

Justin Raimondo is speaking of Michael Novak, a Catholic theologian, who feels that the war with Iraq is justified. George Weigel, a Catholic theologian, also believes that the war with Iraq is justified.

Michael Novak is a member of the board of directors for the Catholic League where Bill Donohue is president.

The Catholic League does a good job guarding against the defamation of God, Jesus, and Mary by various sources who hate God, Jesus, and Mary. The Catholic League should stay out of politics.

Please never forget two quotes by G. K. Chesterton!

1. The greatest stumbling blocs for Catholicism are Catholics.

We have two perfect examples of assholes who claim to be Catholic and theologians as well that go against the vicar of Christ on earth. These men give Catholicism a wrong impression of our faith.

2. Jesus speaks sanity to a world of lunatics.

Going back to Justin's article, please remember that Pope Benedict is a conservative pope. You need to understand that conservative teachings of Catholicism stands united against war and especially this war and the war that is coming against Iran.

The Catholic Church did not stand in the way of a war with Nazi Germany because Hitler was an evil force and very similar to Bush.

The Church opposes an evil nation, Nazi America, that tries to justify wars.

DEN said...

Uh, the Pope WAS a Nazi.

DEN said...

PARIS – Pope Benedict, elaborating his views on evolution for the first time as Pontiff, says science has narrowed the way life's origins are understood and Christians should take a broader approach to the question.

The Pope also says the Darwinist theory of evolution is not completely provable because mutations over hundreds of thousands of years cannot be reproduced in a laboratory.

More here

Now thats pulling a leg.

I am always skeptical of someone who claims to have ALL the answers while knowing none of the science behind them.

º¿carol said...

This Family Guy bit was a hoot!

DEN said...

Christians hate Muslims and Jews,

Jews hate Christians and Muslims,

Muslims hate Jews and Christians,

Whole lot of hate there, no wonder there are always wars.

Religion of any kind should be discarded and instead concentrate on Father Earth and Mother Nature.

Honor your Mother and Father would apply here, not trash them with chemicals and blood.

While you are safe and snug in your home people are dying somewhere because of their religious views.

Until religion is discarded there will NEVER be peace on Earth.

DEN said...

Carol, Stewie needs a head transplant. IMO

Funny tho.

David B. Benson said...

Den --- Head transplants! What a novel concept. I can see it now,

Tony Bush and George Blair...

micki said...

While I agree that it's time to move on regarding the Imus affair, I disagree that it's not a big thing. He should be fired.

If Imus had made a garden variety rude remark, he should be able to keep his job. He has plenty of company among the loud-mouth morons in talk radio and talk TV who make offensive remarks -- it happens every day. But HE MADE A RUDE, CRUDE DISGUSTING RACIST REMARK and that is different -- very different.

He has a history of racist remarks, calling PBS' Gwen Ifill a "cleaning lady" and said the Times' William C. Rhoden was a "quota hire." He routinely refers to Al Sharpton and other high-visibility blacks as "you people" -- a dumb white man's racist code term. His producer (on the same program that got Imus in hot water) called the Rutgers' team "jigaboos."

Racist remarks have NO PLACE on the PUBLIC airwaves. Those airwaves belong to the people -- black, white, and all people of color. Imus does not deserve to keep his job.

micki said...

Blow his brains out? Why not, they're fried anyway.

DEN said...

On KO last night they showed the interview with Rev. Al and Imus hit him with "you people" and "thats jive" during the conversation.

Redneck idiot, all hat and no cattle.

You can bet his charity is a bigtime tax writeoff.

DEN said...

Imus needs a head transplant but first they need to uninstall it from his azz.

micki said...

It's occurred to me that ever since the standards for what is considered civil discourse have been lowered, we've seen more and more corruption and a wider acceptance of politicians like Tom DeLay, George W. Bush, et al.

But...what came first, the chicken or the egg?

David B. Benson said...

Micki --- Both came from dinosaurs. Egg layers as well...

DEN said...

Chickens came first. IMO

MICKI said...

I just heard that MSNBC has dropped Imus from his schedule...gotta find out more about it.


DEN said...

The Limits of Science, and The God Delusion
By Sankara Saranam

An oft-quoted idea of Albert Einstein’s is that while religion without science is blind, science without religion is lame. These days he might say that while there are quite a few blind religionists, we are not without our lame scientists either.

The “religion” that is blind without science is of course religious institutions. Since organized religions are not dedicated to the scientific method to arrive at material knowledge, religious leaders and believers must depend on science to understand the workings of the cosmos. That includes comprehending its age and the origins of life.

To Einstein, religion at its best was synonymous with teaching ethical living while eschewing scientific statements. That is religion’s true mission as it is a singular purpose science cannot fulfill. Religious writings repeatedly fail the test of science, but it was no matter to Einstein since ethical principles could still be extracted from myths. We are no less the keepers of our brother and sister human beings because the sons of Adam are as mythological as their father.

As such, the Mormon religion has no place in claiming an ancient language existed that never did, anymore than does creationism have a place in cosmology courses, because no ethical principle is at stake if “reformed Egyptian” was never uttered or if the world is five billion years old. Another way of putting it is that science is obliged to show that Jesus is a character of fiction and religion is obliged to spread the inclusive teachings of Jesus, and neither should be bothered by the work of the other since Jesus’s teachings are not at all invalidated by Jesus’s lack of historicity, and vice versa.

Because of scientific blindness emerging from organized religion, wherein the history and divinity of the messenger becomes more important than the message, Einstein was painfully aware of how far short religions fell from their calling. He noted that unless religious leaders dispensed with the neither scientific nor ethical notions such as of a monotheistic personal God or “Chosen People” status, they would not only fail their mission but do harm to the public.

So Einstein stressed that ethics, not precisely organized religion, was the real “religion” that gave legs to lame science. He acknowledged that while ethics might be taught by a centralized religion, it exists independent of all religions and no religion has a monopoly on it. Ethics free of scientific statements (as opposed to organized religions that might be tempted to confuse their myths for scientific statements) without science is never blind. One need not know the age of the universe or the origins of life to be ethical; but scientific advancement without a guiding ethical principle is humanity’s worst nightmare. We must avoid what Martin Luther King referred to as the “guided missiles and misguided men” syndrome.

Humanity thus needed a system of thought outside of science but also in keeping with reason (thus disqualifying authoritarian revelation) to understand ethics because science alone would always draw an ethical blank. The scientific method could say nothing regarding ethics or arrive at a standard of good because all ethical standards -- including the one that says science itself is an ethical imperative -- are at bottom arbitrary. Right and wrong are simply not within the purview of science.

There’s something other than ethics -- or the same thing we routinely call a different name -- that science also can’t detect or measure: the self. The one mystery of this cosmos that science can never know is self-awareness. There is no material explanation for, or even a scientific measurement of, the self. Science can never directly measure a sense of self, which is prior to sensory stimulation, thought, feelings, and volition -- namely, all the basic tools of material science. Science can only measure the secondary footprints of the self, which yet remains eternally invisible and unknowable.

We all know a sense of self -- no one denies that -- but that knowledge is not material science. It is intuitively based on our capacity to look within, which is as much to say it is mystical knowledge since it is utterly independent of empirical data. While religions are full of unscientific miracle stories that predominately inculcate a superiority complex instead of inclusive ethics, nothing is a miracle to the material scientist; but because there is awareness in the cosmos, the cosmos is a miraculous wonder to all of us when we take a moment to consider it. A cosmos without self-awareness makes more sense to science -- in fact, it's the only cosmos of which science is aware! A cosmos with self-knowledge changes everything.

It is no coincidence then that science is lame precisely when it comes to knowing the self and knowing right from wrong. Ethical knowledge and self-knowledge are two ways of talking about the same thing. The sense of self and the sense of right and wrong reflect each other. The narrower the self, the more distorted the standards of right and wrong will be. The more expansive the self, the more right and wrong will reflect universals and not be laden with conditioning arising from geography, epoch, culture, religion, etc. Just the belief in divisive eternal apotheoses is enough to warp every ethical sensibility in this temporal world.

This is also why our sense of time and sense of self/ethics are connected. Narrow self breeds narrow time frames, like beginning and end times, but more than that the narrow self will interpret memories with an extreme defensiveness, always inclining to bolster its little world view and myopic view of selfhood. The future memories of such a narrow self will similarly fail to deviate from the comfortable confines of the self’s parameters.

With past and future so entirely constrained, it is no wonder that the sense of right and wrong will be severely warped. The narrow self is unable to entertain an unfamiliar yardstick for right and wrong when these determinations are rigidly predefined to yield a good that is equivalent with whatever supports its belief system and worldview and bad as whatever challenges them. Thus is born all degrees of crusaders, racists, misogynists, gay-haters, end-time believers, and suicide bombers -- i.e. divisive selves.

Scientifically exposing religion’s dark underbelly and the mythic status of Yahweh, Jesus, and other cultic god delusions is vital if the human race is ever going to outgrow the infantile stage of divisive monotheism. But even infants have a self that requires nurturance that science will never satisfy. Of itself, science can never provide the satisfaction to be had by even the primitive worship of a mythic image of God. The scientists that would protest to this statement have simply failed to ask themselves if it was the scientific method and the resulting material knowledge, or their own sense of self projected onto the vocation of science, which brought them personal reward.

Worshipers project their selves onto their professed gods and find solace, and scientists do them same with their profession. At bottom, a similar process is underway: a focal point of concentration is established, allowing the self a space to revel in itself. The danger of divisive mythic images of god is clear: the sense of self affirms its own narrow divisive parameters in the process of attentive worship in order to bolster itself. The danger of science without expansive ethics is also clear: scientific minds unethically hire out their attentions to the highest bidder in order to materially bolster themselves, fighting like mercenaries in technological wars on battlefields of pharmaceutical sales and arms races.

Scientists can rightly protest that advancing technology is not true science, just as sincere seekers of a larger self will protest that organized religions have distorted the timeless teachings of the intuitive mystics of all cultures that investigated the realm of cosmic self-knowledge (much as modern scientists investigate the cosmic realm of material knowledge). But when the atom bomb or suicide bomb drops, who has time for excuses?

So any scientist’s reference to a god or selfish gene is thus belittling and intellectually dishonest, not to mention hypocritical. The sense of self is not limited to religionists, or humans for that matter, and the worship of a personal god is simply a primitive and easily accessible expression of a developing self. The reference carries with it the generally accepted monotheistic definition of god, meaning it criticizes what certainly demands critical analysis -- the worship of an exclusive idea of god that merely bolsters the narrow self -- but it does not appreciate the positive use in historic mythic symbols of expansive principles (of which scientific investigation is also one) as focal points of concentration, so long as the respective mythic images do not devolve into exclusive cults (of which there certainly have been a few in the history of science).

Of course, no scientist will ever find a selfish or god gene. Self-awareness is not simply a process that is far greater than the sum of its parts. It is a substance far prior to all parts that can never be localized in a test tube. The self finds itself in everything because, at bottom, the cosmos is made of the substance of awareness. This is neither a scientific statement nor a statement of faith, but rather an intuited position taken by the rare modern and ancient mystic, after long decades of inward exploration using ascetic and mystical methods -- methods that require far more discipline than is required by the scientific method. In any case, we can more easily believe in the fabled Yahweh than that scientists, by virtue of the tools of material science, are free of a sense of self, narrow or otherwise. If there is dogma in religion, there is as much in the field of science because the self will be inclined to defend its belief systems and theories everywhere.

Carl Sagan once unscientifically suggested that instead of worshipping a nonexistent god, we can look upon ourselves as the cosmos’s experiment at understanding itself. This was his attempt at expansive ethics, but science training does not imply intuitive training. Though he properly posited awareness on the part of the cosmos (we’re living proof of it!), he presumed the cosmos is aware enough to conduct experiments in monkey minds to know itself, but not aware enough to know itself directly. True to the form of the cosmically central omnipresent self, the statement places the self of its speaker -- the scientist -- at the center of purpose in the cosmos and material science as the highest cosmic expression, just as religionists place themselves at the center of existence and their rituals as the highest expression of holiness. Can’t we see a pattern here? Don’t we all appear to belong to the same religion of selfhood?

And if Sagan is right, someone ought to tell the cosmos, which can and will eventually ruin its experiment with a mindless meteor. And where does the cosmos eternally store the data of this mundane experiment? What great victory is it to the cosmos that a complex organism residing on one world discovers a minor atmospheric detail of another? And how does discovering every little fact of the cosmos, as if that were even possible, add a whit to an ethical understanding of a larger self when the two are not mutually contradictory? Indeed, how does finite material knowledge even translate into direct knowledge of the cosmos, and why would the cosmos only be interested in indirect dualistic material knowledge and not direct nondual self-knowledge?

Francois Voltaire didn't believe that undermining an unethical religion required replacing it with anything else, but the history of religion proves otherwise. Sagan was wise in trying, but the idea is to replace it with the real "religion" to which we are all ideally bound: expansive ethical principles. Einstein intuitively voiced those principles succinctly and perfectly: "The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which he has attained liberation from the self." The degree to which we are free from conditioned ideas of self, not how much material knowledge our species accumulates, is the sole measure of our ethical and cosmic success as human beings. This means that we are all, not merely the scientists among us, at the center of place and purpose in the cosmos, with that purpose being self-expansion. This ultimately requires liberation from a narrow Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, American, male or female, black or white, gay or macho, dog lover, parent, or rich and famous self that conditions our hearts and minds with divisive and exclusive ethical perspectives. Even a human self, as divided from an animal or alien self, must be overcome. This is the process that deserves the name “spirituality.”

Science is itself not, nor can it deliver, the religion of expansive ethics or provide the intuitive methods of self-knowledge anymore than can organized religion deliver scientific theories. To find that expansive identity, no scientific degree is needed. No religion is necessary either, and most are better avoided these days. All we need do is tend to the seed of self-expansion by looking within (“intuit”) to the soil in which it grows: our hearts. Surely, no god -- monotheistic or pantheistic -- would make it any more complicated than that.

An entirely different viewpoint, one of many worth exploring, no killing needed.

Sankara Saranam's book can be found HERE

DEN said...

After that one, you might want to use the 'collapse comment' feature.

I do not advocate what he says, just another avenue to look at beyond conventional thought.

DEN said...

Yes! He IS toast!

micki said...

MSNBC Says It Will No Longer Simulcast Don Imus' Radio Program

NEW YORK Apr 11, 2007 (AP)— MSNBC will no longer simulcast Don Imus' radio program, the cable TV network said Wednesday.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

David B. Benson said...

Neocons are chupacabras!

DEN said...

Don Imus had to go,

for a comment saying "ho",

The advertisers, they did go,

Dumping him like a hot potato!

So a word out to other shows,

we don't like discrimination
you know.

DEN said...

This story is not quite over.

It seems the publicity has been a real boon to the Rutgers team, no one even remembers Tennessee the team they LOST to.

These kids really showed their stuff in front of the media and I think it will help them a great deal, because of it.


micki said...

Bloodsucking creatures -- one vampire-like creature that has been gaining a considerable amount of notoriety is the Chupacabra

DEN said...

Favorite hangouts: Guanica, Puerto Rico; Canovanas, Puerto Rico; Klamath Falls, Oregon; Miami, Florida; Calama, Chile; Juarez, Mexico; Sonora, Mexico,

Klamath Falls? Miami?

Nope! not going there!

DEN said...

Strong resemblance to the shape shifting lizard people.

And pictures of aliens,


David B. Benson said...

Den --- Inside neocons!

DEN said...

This is real disturbing stuff about Tommy Thompson and Veri-Chip where he sits on the board.

Seems there is a Pentagon contract to implant soldiers with a RFID chip, meaning millions of dollars for Veri-Chip.

DEN said...



Carol said...

Oh, no. Kurt Vonnegut died. *sniff*

Kurt is in heaven now.

He would appreciate my saying that. It was one of his favorite jokes.

Carol said...

"We are put on earth to fart around," said Vonnegut, "don't let anyone tell you any different."