Wednesday, May 02, 2007


Seems there was a bit of a row in L.A. yesterday between police and pro-immigration protesters. Rubber bullets were the ammo-of-the-day used to disperse a formerly peaceful crowd. Democracy Now has a report but it is not up on their site as of this posting.

I wonder why this is being handled so badly. There is no need for excessive force to be used, if some people are causing problems by assaulting the police that is no reason to be thugs about it.
Find the troublemakers and excise them from the crowd, but to willy-nilly shoot everyone is very troubling.

Personally I feel illegal immigration is a serious problem especially serious with so many Middle Easterns with an axe to grind against the US thanks to the chimp-in-chief and his stupid war.

Compare illegal immigration to someone moving onto your front lawn without your permission and setting up housekeeping. The worst part is when you go to remove them they yell and shout they should be allowed to stay put whether you like it or not.

I'm sorry but I worked hard to afford my yard and don't appreciate someone camping out and claiming it for themselves. So there in lies the dilemma, it is YOUR yard that someone you don't know is claiming for themselves as if it is their right to be there. To me that is a travesty to have what you have worked for be hijacked by someone you do not know and taken from you.

Don't get me wrong, I am not against immigration, just ILLEGAL immigration. Go through the process like everyone else, don't just come here believing you DESERVE to be here, it does not endear you to the residents that worked for what they have.

Many of our ancestors came to this country early in the 20th Century, learned the language and were granted citizenship through the immigration processes at the time. There needs to be workable processes in place to address immigrants and their application for citizenship, it should be simple and straightforward and compassionate.

Immigrants that would shortcut and not apply for citizenship are not 3rd class people and should not be treated as such, just given a choice of application or return to their original country, nicely, criminal background checks need to be done to avoid letting in the ner-do-wells, we have enough of those already.

By scrutinizing people wishing to make the US their home it would ensure those folks, as well as our, safety is retained at a higher level. Right now the system is sloppy and mean spirited and needs to be changed, the rif-raf needs to be culled from the incoming masses, real thought and substance needs to be applied to immigration, the sooner the better.


DEN said...

Wonderful rain coming down here in CA.

Our snowpack is 30% of normal which does not bode well for the fire season.

One week of wind and it will be dry as a bone here again.

Fingers crossed.

DEN said...

Democracy Now has the LA story up

DEN said...

Shocking development recently uncovered by me.

Where did THESE GUYS come from?

Main site

Yup they got me spooked!

micki said...

This administration and the previously Republican controlled legislature have been the most caustic agents against America's Armed Forces in memory.  Less than a year ago, the Republicans imposed great hardship on the Army and Marine Corps by their failure to pass a necessary funding language.  This time, the President of the United States is holding our Soldiers hostage to his ego.  More than ever apparent, only the Army and the Marine Corps are at war - alone, without their President's support.
--Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, USA, Ret. 

(National Security Network)

micki said...

GWB's Braceros

Den, I am reading the SPLC report on the guest worker program -- I'll have to find the report online and post a link.

Immigration reform, without reforming the so-called "guest worker" program, is a travesty.

DEN said...

Micki, that story really pisses me off. The lengths that companies will go to with imported labor is atrocious. Seems there is no avenue to seek relief in place and the abuse continues.

Where is Congressional oversight?

Kick those damn lobbyists out so they can get some work done!

DEN said...

Voices From the Spanish Civil War

Posted on May 1, 2007

By Amy Goodman

Clarence Kailin is 92 years old. He recently traveled to New York City to attend the annual reunion of the Veterans of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade. The brigade was originally made up of roughly 3,000 U.S. citizens who volunteered to fight in the Spanish Civil War, which raged from 1936 to 1939.

Seventy years later, Kailin recalled his reasons for leaving the comfort of Madison, Wis., to volunteer to fight in defense of Spain’s democratically elected government against a military coup led by Gen. Francisco Franco, backed by Adolf Hitler and Italian dictator Benito Mussolini: “It was fighting against Italian fascism and German Nazism. And we felt that if we lost the war, that World War II was pretty much inevitable, which is what happened. It happened because Britain and France and the United States refused to give us any help at all. And so, we fought barehanded at times.”

Very interesting reading about that moment in US history seldom mentioned.

DEN said...

Hop-Heads rejoice!

New Studies Destroy the Last Objection to Medical Marijuana
By Bruce Mirken, AlterNet
Posted on May 2, 2007, Printed on May 2, 2007

Anyone who advocates for medical marijuana sooner or later runs into arguments about smoking: "No real medicine is smoked." "Smoking is bad for the lungs; why would any doctor recommend something so harmful?" It's a line of reasoning that medical marijuana opponents have used to great effect in Congress, state legislatures, and elsewhere. Indeed, the FDA's controversial 2006 statement opposing medical marijuana was couched in repeated references to "smoked marijuana."

But new research demonstrates that all those fears of "smoked marijuana" as medicine are 100 percent obsolete.

@ Alternet

Carey said...

It's drought-city here in Southern California.

This came in an hour or so ago. If there's one prediction we should have gotten down, given the Michael Brown and Don Rumsfeld debacles, it's that this Gonzogate thing would drag on and on.

Considering what's really at stake with this justice department investigation, the nation's top law enforcemet agency, this may take much longer than we expected. Sen. Patrick Leahy, the subject of a "Go fuck yourself" blast from asshole Dick, put the relevation of yesterday's secret memo this way:

This secret order would seem to be evidence of an effort to hardwire control over law enforcement by White House political operatives.

Senate Subpeoas Gonzaes On Rove E-Mail

Carey said...

What a lovely treat, Micki. Amy Goodman has a real knack for history. Beautifully written and thought-out essay, I must say.

Yes, the Spanish Civil War was the testing ground and its outcome very key to the future events. Intellectuals and artists quite brillliantly portrayed what a horror the 20th century would become well before it was evident.

David B. Benson said...

Carey --- It is that sort of day today:

... which was nothing in comparison to the horrors that the 21st century will become.

Carey said...

I have angrily noticed the media's rough treatment of Kucinich. It really gets my goat. I think even Olbermann engaged in some of it after the Democratic debate.

Katrina Vanden Handel, the editor of the Nation agrees. There's an interesting link or two in her post.

The Media, Impeachmnt & Kucinich

Carey said...

I wanted to make it clear that I still have a great deal of respect for Wayne Madsen. I think he's one hell of a reporter. He just needs a better editor, and that's his responsibility as it is with anyone.

micki said...

Remember when "someone from Arlen Specter's staff" mysteriously inserted the provision into the Patriot Act that allowed interim appointments without confirmation?

Well, it would seem to me that Senator Leahy should tell Senator Specter to recuse himself from the hearings on Gonzo and DoJ -- afterall, it was Specter's sneaky provision inserted into the Patriot Act that enabled this whole rotten, stinking mess.

I'm sick of Specter. He's a Rovian mole IMO. What does General Rove have on Specter anyway?

micki said...

Remember when "someone from Arlen Specter's staff" mysteriously inserted the provision into the Patriot Act that allowed interim appointments without confirmation?

Well, it would seem to me that Senator Leahy should tell Senator Specter to recuse himself from the hearings on Gonzo and DoJ -- afterall, it was Specter's sneaky provision inserted into the Patriot Act that enabled this whole rotten, stinking mess.

I'm sick of Specter. He's a Rovian mole IMO. What does General Rove have on Specter anyway?

micki said...

oopsey doopsey

micki said...

Den deserves credit for posting the Amy Goodman article. Not me.

micki said...

"I continue to hope that the Department will cooperate with the Committee's investigation, but it is troubling that significant documents highly relevant to the Committee's inquiry have not been produced," Leahy said in the letter [to Gonzales].

"Indeed, despite multiple requests for the Department to produce documents voluntarily related to the Committee's investigation into the mass firings of U.S. Attorneys and politicization at the Department, the Department's production of documents has been selective and incomplete," Leahy added. "Many documents have been withheld or redacted without any legal basis being set forth."


Maybe Al Fredo won't recall that he got the subpoena?

micki said...

A 7-YO boy said this when his teacher asked the class to give the definition of "island."

If you are surrounded by sea you are an Island. If you don't have sea all round you, you are incontinent.

ò,óarol said...

The scourge of mockolate

Will Durst

05.02.07 - I never thought I’d be talking smack about the Hershey Company. It makes me feel like I’m wiping my oily hands on the prom dress of America’s sweetheart. We all know Hershey. We all love Hershey. For crum’s sake, they’re the chocolate people! Got a whole town named after them. The sugar rush dealers of our youth: Almond Joy, Mounds, Kit Kat, Reese’s Pieces, and of course, the ubiquitous Hershey Bar. Which, if you believe all of the fairy tales of the Greatest Generation, were used in WW II to acquire the overnight company of comely foreign-born ladies. What could be more American?

But now, this Pennsylvania champ of snacks seems to be allergic to its own concoction and itching to get out of the chocolate business and into the... imitation chocolate business. They recently petitioned the Food and Drug Administration to legally redefine the term “chocolate” so that it includes artificial sweeteners, milk substitutes, and trans fats. That’s right. They’re about to become the foremost manufacturers of something destined to be known as Mockolate.

They claim the broader labels are necessary to keep up with changing consumer tastes. Yeah, right. Unbeknownst to us, phantom consumers have stormed the placid town of Hershey rallying and protesting the disgusting flavor of actual chocolate and crying out for something just as fattening, worse for our health and tastes like cardboard dipped in stagnant runoff. Reminds me of those mock apple pies the Ritz Cracker people tried to pawn off on us back in the 60s. Mmm, mushy crackers instead of cooked apples. Now, that’s good eating.

I don’t understand this whole “close, but no cigar” business. Like decaffeinated coffee. You schmuck. That’s why I drink it. You take the caffeine out of it, this stuff is useless to me. It's hot, bitter, dirty water. Without the kick. “I like the wiry buzz, it's the rich flavor I could do without.” Wine without alcohol. Why? I thought Welch’s had that gig sewed up. And the kids and their juice sticks. Juice Sticks? Whose major connection to juice is what? The fact that their color is often not totally dissimilar to the fruit they’re named after?

A spokesperson for Hershey says this is about modernizing food standards, increasing flexibility, and accommodating changes in technology, but the real answer lies right where you expect it, oozing down there on the bottom line. Cocoa butter costs $2.30 a pound. Vegetable oils? Less than a third of that. You know who I blame for this whole propagation of bogasity? George Bush. He’s earned his position as poster boy for this national avalanche of hollow charade through his fraudulent masquerade as a leader.

His Healthy Forests Initiative encouraged logging. His Clears Skies Bill was a sop to big contributors allowing increased pollution. The Patriot Act stripped ordinary citizens of civil liberties so he can spread democracy across the globe by scooping up the excess we have here. Success and acceptance these days has nothing to do with what you do. It's how you sell what you do. Or don’t do. And what you do or don’t call what it is that you do do. And it won’t be long before our candy bars will be, just like George Bush already is… full of some of that doo doo.

Comic, writer, actor, former radio talk show host and holder of the Guinness world record for continuous kissing at 12 hours, Will Durst, thinks sometimes you feel like retiring at a Potemkin Village, sometimes you don’t.

DEN said...

Doc, I know the outlook for the future does not look so good, but one must not dwell on it.

To do so invites depression.

I refuse to relinquish my life to the future, and the tragedy it brings if indeed the predictions are true.

So I do today, and tomorrow, I will do tomorrow.

Go through each day being who you are and not how you wish you were, but are not.

Don't take guff from obvious idiots, but try not get killed doing it.

Take time to get out of your own head for a minute and look around whats left of nature, good walk in the woods.

We might not have much time left, better enjoy it while you can.

DEN said...

Micki, wonderful joke

Carol, is nothing sacred?

DEN said...

well not joke actually

David B. Benson said...

Micki's post was wonderfully funny!

There is a word for this form of humor, but I can't recall it just now.

DEN said...

On KO tonite Jonathan Turley said that Leahy was "unstoppable".

The Leahy freight train of malfeasons is mounting against Gonzo, Rove and others.

The chimp is going down!!

Pack him up and get him out, now!
Deadeye too.

micki said...

Would it be a non sequitur?

micki said...

CArol called this to my attention -- bush proclaims, "I'm the commander guy"

By the way, in the report it said, it is -- the government may have to put in more troops to be able to get to that position. And that's what we do. We put in more troops to get to a position where we can be in some other place. The question is, who ought to make that decision? The Congress or the commanders? And as you know, my position is clear -- I'm the commander guy.

Den, I hope you're right that Commander Chimp is going down! We can't take much more of this!

micki said...

And that's what we do. We put in more troops to get to a position where we can be in some other place.



David B. Benson said...

Jonny, use the words defense, defeat and disarm in a single sentence.

Jonny, after thinking for a bit
Disarm went over defense before defeat...

ò¿óarol said...

"I'm the commander guy." What a childish way to put it. Sounds like the idiot he is.

ò¿óarol said...

Oh, my gosh! My internet is way slow. I'm only moving at 142 kbps!! I took the test because I THOUGHT it was moving slow. It does fluctuate, but it doesn't stay that slow for long.

David B. Benson said...

Den --- "real thought ... needs to be applied to immigration"

Then it certainly won't happen in the White House!

Alan said...

Carol, do you use this one? There's a ton of speed test sites out there, but I like that one the best.

DEN said...

Doc, nope I agree, not a thinking bunch, unless it is sinister.

So many changes need to take effect in government to bring it back into the hands of the people where it belongs.

Alan said...

Watch that short clip from the Charlie Rose show.

DEN said...

OOPS - I can not find that file!


DEN said...

Found it on C&L despite

ºCºarol said...

Yes, Alan. That's the one I use.

micki said...

Jonny, after thinking for a bit
Disarm went over defense before defeat...

Dr. B -- You've topped my contribution from the 7 YO defining an island.


Alan said...

y'all should watch that slideshow at Crooks... of the British medical unit in Afghanistan.