Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Scull &Boneheads

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) _ Legend has it that Yale University's ultrasecret Skull and Bones society swiped the remains of American Indian leader Geronimo nearly a century ago from an Army outpost in Oklahoma.

Now, Geronimo's great-grandson wants the remains returned.

Harlyn Geronimo, 59, of Mescalero, N.M., wants to prove the skull and bones purportedly taken from a burial plot in Fort Sill, Okla., are indeed those of his great-grandfather. They're now said to be in a stone tomb that serves as the club's headquarters.

If they are proven to be those of Geronimo, his great-grandson wants them buried near the Indian leader's birthplace in southern New Mexico's Gila Wilderness.

"He died as a prisoner of war, and he is still a prisoner of war because his remains were not returned to his homeland," Harlyn Geronimo said. "Presently, we are looking for a proper consecrated burial."

Harlyn Geronimo grew up hearing stories about his great-grandfather and other Apache warriors who fought the Mexican and U.S. armies.

After their families were captured and sent to Florida, Geronimo and 35 warriors surrendered to Gen. Nelson A. Miles near the Arizona-New Mexico border in 1886. Geronimo was eventually sent to Fort Sill, where he died of pneumonia in 1909.

If the bones at Yale aren't those of Geronimo, Harlyn Geronimo believes they belonged to one of the Apache prisoners who died at Fort Sill. He said they should still be returned.

Harlyn Geronimo wrote last year to President Bush, seeking his help in recovering the bones. He thought that since the president's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was allegedly one of those who helped steal the bones in 1918, the president would want to help return them.

But, Harlyn Geronimo said, "I haven't heard a word."

The White House did not respond to messages seeking comment.

President Bush and his father, former President George H.W. Bush, both attended Yale and joined the elite club. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, is also a Bonesman, as are many other men in powerful government and industry positions.

@ Newsday

So here we have a grandson of an idiot thief with the audacity to think they have some right to someone else's skeletal remains for their kinky little fraternity, isn't that precious.

Defending his granddaddy's honor W chooses to ignore the request of a direct descendant of Geronimo to have the remains examined and determine if they are really Geronimo's or not.

Same story different day for the bunch of alien assholes that just happen to have held the Presidency twice and fed Hitler money during WWII. These Bushes need to be trimmed!

Feeding Nazis, stealing artifacts, starting illegal wars, this Bush bunch has a history of
UN-AMERICAN actions going back almost 90 years. These people are gangsters plain and simple, worse than the normally thought of Sopranos type gangsters. They have left a trail of death numbering in the thousands through the years, yet there are those (Bushies) that worship the ground these thugs walk on, now they want to run the world?

Tar and feathers are way to good for these gangsters, public hanging is not.

Geronimos' words:

"I was warmed by the sun, rocked by the winds and sheltered by the trees as other Indian babes. I was living peaceably when people began to speak bad of me. Now I can eat well, sleep well and be glad. I can go everywhere with a good feeling.

The soldiers never explained to the government when an Indian was wronged, but reported the misdeeds of the Indians. We took an oath not to do any wrong to each other or to scheme against each other.

I cannot think that we are useless or God would not have created us. There is one God looking down on us all. We are all the children of one God. The sun, the darkness, the winds are all listening to what we have to say.

When a child, my mother taught me to kneel and pray to Usen for strength, health, wisdom and protection. Sometimes we prayed in silence, sometimes each one prayed aloud; sometimes an aged person prayed for all of us... and to Usen.

I was born on the prairies where the wind blew free and there was nothing to break the light of the sun. I was born where there were no enclosures."

No wonder the White Man feared him, he spoke truth.



•¿•arol said...

Interesting post. I love history and I love a good mystery. Hope the remains get tested!

DEN said...

On another matter of great importance:

Dear Den:

Thank you for writing to me regarding the "Habeas Corpus Restoration Act of 2007" (S. 185). I appreciate your thoughts on this legislation and welcome the opportunity to respond.

Habeas corpus is known as "the Great Writ." It provides a right to challenge in federal court the constitutionality of a person's detention, after all appeals and other challenges available in the jurisdiction of conviction have been exhausted. The right of habeas corpus is designed to ensure that innocent people do not remain in jail and are not executed. However, while habeas corpus is an important check against the misuse of government power, it is also susceptible to abuse. It is important that Congress carefully review and consider any proposed changes to laws concerning habeas corpus.

You will be pleased to know that I have decided to cosponsor S. 185, which repeals provisions of the Military Commissions Act of 2006 that eliminated the jurisdiction of any court to hear or consider applications for a writ of habeas corpus filed by aliens who have been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as enemy combatants. Please know that I will keep your thoughts in mind should the Senate Judiciary Committee, on which I serve, or the full Senate debate this important bill and its potential effects on Constitutional due process guarantees.

Again, thank you for writing. I hope that you will continue to write on matters of importance to you. If you have any further comments or questions, please feel free to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.

Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

Yea, it's another form letter but it shows me that the good intent is there. I do appreciate responses to my pleadings.

Carey said...

Re Feinstein--she does respond and explain her position. That's nice.

I think I see a little light. Really. As Thom Hartmann and Randi Rhodes are saying, it looks like we finally made a turn. The committing of crimes has slowed to a crawl. They're still madly waving their arms trying to squeeze out every last dime, but it's over. The big stuff is over.

The "caging lists" and "lost" emails are gonna get 'em, maybe. They screwed with the sacred Presidential record. So many, many laws, down the drain.

Yes, I think I see a little light at the end of the tunnel both for me personally and, politically, on a national scale.

On another important subject, remember the Debka report yesterday? Prime Israeli intelligence fell into Hamas hands. Retribution is here.....

Israeli Planes, Tanks Hit Gaza

EREZ CROSSING, Gaza Strip - Israel fired missiles and sent tanks on a foray into Gaza on Wednesday, killing four Palestinians in the deadliest military action since Hamas militants took control of the coastal strip.

DEN said...

Carey, the light at theend of the tunnel is a train coming our way, HA!

I am glad to hear you are getting a bit more optimistic, I will reserve my optimism until I see real change, like doofus and deadeye doing the perp walk.

Containment of these renegade politicos is my priority.

The American people are fed up with their shenanigans, and fear mongering.

carey said...

Carter speaks out calling the U.S. policy on Palestinians "criminal" and blames it for the current escalating trouble in the Gaza Strip and they just fall over each other shrieking foul. Everyone's up in arms. "He has no right"....."He doesn't help the situation"....etc.

And, of course, the fete accompli: "He's anti-semitic."

Carter Blasts U.S. Policy on Palestinians

DUBLIN, Ireland - Former President Jimmy Carter accused the U.S., Israel and the European Union on Tuesday of seeking to divide the Palestinian people by reopening aid to President Mahmoud Abbas' new government in the West Bank while denying the same to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

º¿carol said...

Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Posted by Jim Hightower

Here comes another dirty little secret about the Bushites' disastrous Iraq war: Many more American troops have died there than they have admitted. These troops aren't part of the Army or other official military units. They are part of the hidden "contract army" that Bush has quietly sent to war. While there are about 150,000 U.S. military personnel in Iraq, there are more than 120,000 other men and women serving alongside the military, but drawing their paychecks through such Pentagon contractors as Halliburton, Blackwater, DynCorp, and Custer Battles.

Bush's corporate army not only provides support services – including doing laundry, serving meals and delivering water – but it also is engaged in such direct military functions as interrogating prisoners, training the Iraq army, guarding the Green Zone, protecting military convoys, analyzing intelligence, and providing paramilitary security.

These are hired hands, not soldiers, and mostly they lack the training, discipline, and equipment of the regular forces – yet they're thrown into the same deadly environment, getting shot, bombed, maimed, and killed. Yet, the Bushites don't even keep count of them. A spokesman coldly says: "There is no requirement for the U.S. government to track these numbers."

Excuse me, but they're not numbers. They are people. And the Labor Department, which receivess workers compensation claims, has quietly recorded that at least 917 of these people have died in Bush's war. Another 12,000 have been wounded in battle or injured on the job. That's about one-third more causalities than the Bushites have told us about – a hidden toll of this awful war, and another measure of its deceit and immorality.

Rep. Jan Schakowski is sponsoring a bill to requiring the Pentagon to have the decency to start counting those people killed and maimed in Bush's privatized military. For information, call 202-225-2111.

"Contractor deaths in Iraq soar to record," The New York Times, May 19, 20007

º¿carol said...

Beer 30 came early today. That's because we had to go to Mason TO GET THE CLEAN DEED ON OUR HOUSE (woo hoo!) and would pass my daughter's place on the way home, so we stopped.

Her boyfriend was doing ok. Yesterday John called my house a dozen times around The View time and I didn't answer because no one calls anyway, we have an answering machine (he didn't leave a message) and I was watching Michael Moore on The view. Something happened to John's back just like that and he had to crawl, got himself up into his big pick-up to get his cell phone and tried calling me a dozen times WHILE I IGNORED HIM WHILE LISTENING TO SHIT ABOUT HEALTH CARE IN THE U.S. on The View!

Isn't that ironic? I had someone with an emergency trying to get my help on the phone and I didn't answer because I was listening to stuff about our horrible health care! Bwahahaha.

John couldn't walk, had to crawl on the rocks on the drive to my car. I got him to Urgent Care. All they did was pump him full of drugs. At least 4 different kinds to get his back to quit hurting. He couldn't walk. My daughter got there, they decided to send him to a real hospital and Jill had them call her ambulance-owning-friend, and Kevin came for John.

They took him up to Sparrow Hospital in Lansing, pumped him full of MORE drugs, said he probably just pulled a muscle and that was that. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE BILLS ON YESTERDAY'S TWO EMERGENCY/HOSPITAL TRIPS. I bet it will be a whopper!

Anyway, we stopped by to see him and he was limping but walking. On the mend and not crawling on the ground. Had to have a couple beers to celebrate don't-ya-know. :)

DEN said...

OMG! I just spit beer everywhere!

Carol, you lead an interesting life!

DEN said...

Did I mention ROTGLMAO,
(rolling on the ground laughing my ass off)?

º¿carol said...

Phew, I'm glad you liked my story, Den! Now you have ME laughing!

º¿carol said...

They gave John three different injections at Urgent Care. An hour later he was spinning, said the light in the ceiling was serrated, or something. BUT HE COULDN'T WALK!

I found out that at Sparrow Hospital they pumped him with more drugs. By the time they left there around 8:00 p.m. he wanted to barf, but Jill bought him two tacos at Taco Bell instead.

Here's how insensible health care is. Before Kevin and his ambulance got to Mason Urgent Care a nurse stuck John for an I.V. TWICE!!!! The bag was hanging, etc. I heard today that no one EVER turned the bag on, no liquid went into John. What do you wanna bet they threw that virginal bag away. Wasteful. There's some rule that you can't send someone off in an ambulance unless they have an I.V. JUST in case a drug has to be administered. Wasteful, wasteful. No drugs, no saline used. Money down the drain not to mention tossing the stuff in some goddamn landfill! Arghhhhhhh!!!!

DEN said...

Modern Medicine

ºCºarol said...

I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. I'm so upset 24/7 about just about everything. I find fault and idiocy in anything. Watching what happened to John from the time I got him to Urgent Care and on is a study........ this: They pumped him with drugs at both places. What happened to worrying about drug interactions, or the liver having to get rid of the fuckin' drugs? I find this world of the U.S. more and more a Bizarro world, like one with no logical thought directing it.

OR!!!! I didn't go to medical school so what-the-fuck-do-I-know!!!!

DEN said...

Carol, ever given thought to taking up drinking?

Just kidding!

A patient has to be alert for the signs of ineptitude in medical staff even doctors are doofusses!

Question everything!

Medicine NEEDS to be NON-PROFIT, desperately to kick out the greedy bastards making money off sick people. SLUGS!

DEN said...