Thursday, June 14, 2007


Michael Moore, whose film "Sicko" criti- cizes health care industry profits, joins hundreds of members of the California Nurses Association Tuesday on the steps of the Capitol. Sacramento Bee/Randall Benton

Michael Moore, the filmmaker and provocateur, rode to the Capitol on Tuesday, delivering impassioned -- and sharply barbed -- pleas for guaranteed health care.

He was embraced by throngs who bestowed on him the kind of hoopla usually given a rock star.

It was an opportunity for Moore to promote "Sicko," his latest film to take a jab at a powerful American institution. This time: the health care industry.

"There is no room for the concept of profits when taking care of people when they are sick," Moore told a crowd of nearly a thousand nurses who swarmed the west steps of the Capitol.

@ The Sacramento Bee

Of course this is not solving the current political dilemma with the current Administration but it is a very important subject indeed.

Why should your health care concerns be subject to a "is it profitable to fix her/him" analysis?

Whether you live or die today in the hospital is not up to you to decide, it is up to the HMO's and their "for profit" mentality.

There is that nasty evil Repug "PROFIT" word again. Where Repugs go, profits are soon to follow as evidenced by the severe trade imbalance and now the Medical Industry.

Yes Medical INDUSTRY. Any time you have profit to make you have industry of some sort, clothing, appliance, health care, industry.

The question Michael asks is "should medical care be a for profit industry, should the Fire Dept, be a for profit industry? OR any other public service for that matter.

Privatizing of health care was done at the behest of none other than John Erlichman and his fellow repug crook Richard Nixon in 1972 from Michaels' site
"Moore unearths 1971 White House tapes in which President Nixon and John Ehrlichman discussed the pending bill to promote managed care. Ehrlichman reassures Nixon that "all the incentives are toward less medical care ... because the less care they give 'em, the more money they make."

Repugs in action after the 'Almighty Dollar', since then the price of health care in this country has skyrocketed as the cost of doing business has also risen in an attempt to make even more profits for the greedy bastards.

Well money won't cure you if you are sick, but without it you will not get well.

Illness is the single highest reason for bankruptcy in the US today because of the "for profit" mentality of greedy corporations who incidentally do not give a rats ass about you if you don't give them money first.

What a country!



DEN said...

Click to provide groceries to hungry Americans through Americas Second Harvest at no cost to you!

micki said...

Medical Errors - A Leading Cause of Death

Medical Errors - A Leading Cause of Death The JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA) Vol 284, No 4, July 26th 2000 article written by Dr Barbara Starfield, MD, MPH, of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, shows that medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the United States.

The report apparently shows there are 2,000 deaths/year from unnecessary surgery; 7000 deaths/year from medication errors in hospitals; 20,000 deaths/year from other errors in hospitals; 80,000 deaths/year from infections in hospitals; 106,000 deaths/year from non-error, adverse effects of medications - these total up to 225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes which ranks these deaths as the # 3 killer. Iatrogenic is a term used when a patient dies as a direct result of treatments by a physician, whether it is from misdiagnosis of the ailment or from adverse drug reactions used to treat the illness. (drug reactions are the most common cause).

Den, not to be flip because I do realize the urgent need for adequate access to medical care for all, but I wouldn't count on that access as a panacea for all our "ills."

The medical-industrial complex is in bad shape.

micki said...

Reducing the rate of medical errors

Medical errors cost tens of thousands of lives in US hospitals each year—more than deaths from highway accidents, breast cancer, and AIDS combined. Studies have put the numbers of deaths anywhere from 44 000 to 98 000 annually in hospitals. However, these numbers could go much higher if the numbers of people who die as a result of errors in day-surgery and outpatient clinics, retail pharmacies, nursing homes, and home care were counted, said the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in its landmark report "To Err is Human."

micki said...

Clinicians' fear of malpractice litigation is the most significant obstacle to the open reporting of medical mistakes. Without open reporting of medical mistakes, however, root cause analysis of mistakes cannot be done, thus undermining efforts to implement safeguards to minimize the occurrence of future mistakes.

The moral of the story: Cover your ass no matter what!

micki said...

Full disclosure:

I am totally cynical about the United States' Medical-Industrial Complex.

Caveat emptor!

DEN said...

The study is said to show that more than two million American hospitalized patients suffered a serious adverse drug reaction (ADR) within the 12-month period of the study and, of these, over 100,000 died as a result.

5% of the hospitalized died.

DEN said...

My beef is there is no count of the total hospitalized or patients under care, just the dead ones.

Most health care professionals do a great job, the figures provided show a small percentage when looking at the overall numbers under medical care.

DEN said...

This sux:

FDA Conflict-of-Interest continued:

In the book Alternative Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer, they discuss "How Cancer Politics Have Kept You In the Dark" - Chapter 26. They talk about one study that disclosed that almost 50% of high-ranking FDA officials had been employed by major drug companies immediately before joining the FDA and that half of these officials upon leaving the FDA take up executive jobs in pharmaceutical companies.

Another study that they discuss was printed in the Wall Street Journal in 1992. It revealed that 60% of drug advertisements in medical journals actually violated FDA guidelines, yet the FDA did nothing about those violations.

Yet, in 1985, the FDA teamed up with the Pharmaceutical Advertising Council to use drug industry funds to combat "quackery" in medicine - alternative medicine.
From your article further down the page, note the words "drug industry".

DEN said...

Leahy into a rant on C-Span on XM.

Gerald said...

Please go to and scroll down to Margin Notes by Kevin Clarke and read his article, "Iran Spam," a shockingly awful public relations campaign is underway for yet another war. This article is in the June, 2007 edition of the magazine.

Gerald said...

It is amazing how many people swarm to come to America. In America everything is perfect. Yes, we are the perfect empire of love, mercy, peace, and justice. America must be a great country because everyone swarms to come to the perfect empire.

micki said...

There is not adequate reporting on medical/medication errors, because the MEDICAL-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX protects its own.

I read (somewhere) that one researcher believes that every single patient, in every single hospital in the United States is subjected to at least one MEDICATION ERROR every single day of their But, fortunately, most of those medication errors do not result in death or disability.

But, still.....!

Gerald said...

Greed and profits are what matters most. Hell with the people!

I have given you what is important in life and to the world. I have shared with you, "Shalom." Where everyone shares in God's gifts!

God has given us what we need but we must be willing to share with our brothers and sisters in God.

Greed is evil. Certain amount of profits are necessary to keep people creative but we must decide what is a fair margin of profit. But, in America profits matter and the people can "eat cake."

Michael Moore's film shows us and the world how evil America is. We are the United States of Evil. America and Evil are synonymous.

micki said...

I believe most medical practitioners do an adequate job, which I define as barely sufficient or satisfactory.

I do not believe that most do a good job.

(But, I guess I'll STFU on this topic.)

DEN said...

Micki, that is why I question everything when in the hospital or doctors office.

Many people regard their physicians as "gods" and never question their decisions. Big mistake.

Today with the internet a lot of information is available to folks in an effort to understand their illness, however a lot of seniors are not internet savvy leaving them dependent on the medical professionals.

We must take the bull by the horns and at least try to educate ourselves about illness or we are asking for trouble.

Trauma care is critical and must be top notch because most of us will not be aware enough of what is going on to effect accurate care during emergency situations.

DEN said...

Gerald, what we have is Capitalism gone bad in every aspect of our lives.

Profits trump reason in every area of business and EVERY business has declared PROFIT to reign supreme over all common sense.

Privatization of any governmental agency would result in the same profit making(taking) attitude.


DEN said...

Gerald, what we have is Capitalism gone bad in every aspect of our lives.

Profits trump reason in every area of business and EVERY business has declared PROFIT to reign supreme over all common sense.

Privatization of any governmental agency would result in the same profit making(taking) attitude.


DEN said...

Ferengi Rules of Aquisition are remarkably similar to those of the repugs.

Read the list here

#202-The justification for profit is profit.

(latinum is Star Trek for money)

DEN said...

New E-Mail:

Dear Den:

Thank you for writing to express your concern about the Administration's plans to develop a Reliable Replacement Warhead (RRW). I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.

I remain deeply concerned about this Administration's nuclear weapons policy. For fiscal year (FY) 2008, the Administration is requesting $118 million for the Reliable Replacement Warhead program: $88 million in the National Nuclear Security Administration's budget and $30 million in the Department of Defense's budget. These funds would be used for the development phase of the warhead: design definition and cost study.

Yet the Administration has failed to make the case for providing additional funding to what we all know will be a new nuclear weapon. The National Nuclear Security Administration is seeking a significant increase in funding for the Reliable Replacement Warhead program at a time when:

The Secretary of Energy and Secretary of Defense have certified that the nuclear stockpile is safe and reliable for 11 straight years;

There is no new military requirement to replace existing, well-tested warheads;

A December 2006 report by the National Laboratories showed that plutonium pits have a life-span of at least 85 years; and

The American Association for the Advancement of Science has issued a report calling on the Administration to develop a comprehensive policy on the future of nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons policy before moving ahead with the RRW.

I firmly believe we should deny additional funding over FY 2007 levels for the Reliable Replacement Warhead program until the Administration takes a serious look at our nuclear weapons programs and issues a bipartisan policy on the size of the future stockpile, testing, and nuclear nonproliferation efforts. Please know that I will continue to work hard to promote nuclear nonproliferation and will keep your letter in mind in future Senate debates.

Again, thank you for writing. If you have any further comments, please contact my office in Washington, D.C. at (202) 224-3841. Best regards.

Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

Gerald said...

Bush's Corporate Court

Gerald said...

Filthy Food Imports

Gerald said...

den, BOHICA is right. As an American I have bohicafied so often that at the start of each day the rectum just opens up for the next BOHICA.

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DEN said...


DEN said...

Mr. Wizard passed away, my childhood hero taught me science was cool, I will not forget that.


What Woodward and Bernstein's All the President's Men was to journalism, Don Herbert's Watch Mr. Wizard was to science. As a kid in Newark, I was one of those 7- to 12-year-olds who tried never to miss my Saturday morning appointment with his NBC show, and it's a safe bet that the curiosity about the natural world he encouraged, as well as the respect for evidence and analysis he modeled, were what set me on a path to a college degree in molecular biology. True, I lapsed, but in Don Herbert's New York Times obituary it says that during the 1960s and '70s, "about half the applicants to Rockefeller University in New York, where students work toward doctorates in science and medicine, cited Mr. Wizard when asked how they first became interested in science." A National Science Foundation official quoted in his Los Angeles Times obituary said in 1989 that "Don has been personally responsible for more people going into the sciences than any other single person in this country."


º¿carol said...

Den, the letter from Feinstein sounds JUST like the ones I get from Levin and Stabenow. I hate those stilted, formulaic letters. Ugh. What a waste of time.

DEN said...

Carol, maybe I am naive but there could be honesty there.

I'm not a Di-Fi fan but I have to believe some of what she says.

Will have to check the vote.

º¿carol said...

My problem is the way the letters are written. As if by robots.

David B. Benson said...

Carol --- The letters are written by young staffers, just out of college.

One reason I retired. Too many students just wanted degrees, not an education...

º¿carol said...

I know that the letters have to sound formal and businesslike, but I hate that. It would be great to get one from Senator Carl Levin where he said, "Dear Carol," I'm writing to tell you how PISSED I am right now, blah, blah, blah."

David B. Benson said...

Carol --- It is possible to write a businesslike letter without its being that stiff and wooden.

There are probably even books on how to write a letter...

carey said...

Wow, David B.

I noticed that trend when I went to college back in the eighties (older student). It is so damn true.

There's your 'capitalism' in one of its more fruitful forms.

Very interesting discussion on health. I heard Edwards say, on Hartmann, that the reform process should lead to single-payer universal health care. I was only casually listening and it was brief.

ò¿óarol said...

Dr. B, in order for a letter from one of "them" to not be stiff & wooden, it would have to be written to just me. Dear Carol, I am SOOOO pissed at this WH. I would dearly love to impeach that bastard, but we just can't get the votes. Hell, we can't get the votes for anything. I can't believe it has gone this far. I'm putting all my hopes on the 2008 election to start to straighten this country out.

Sincerely, Carl

ò¿óarol said...

note: It's not about the swearing, but the swearing makes it more real. That's how people talk, even Carl Levin.

David B. Benson said...

I don't ever swear. Well, unless I see a squirrel...

In other news, I went through the list of the top 100 global development sites, which delivered up a usable 34 e-mail addresses. Whew. My poor eyes.

•¿•arol said...

Dr. B, you're a paragon of virtue. I am, too, except I now have a mouth like a fuckin' truck driver! THE 2000 ELECTION DID IT TO ME!

I'm fresh from the shower after a day of sweating (no air-conditioning in our house and everyone should be proud of me for that). I'm going to play a computer game then watch Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. Ah, what a life! Nice to not have to go to work anymore. :)

micki said...

I grew up being told that saying "shut up" to someone was equivalent to swearing.

I am no spring chicken and I did not swear for decades of my life.

Now, I find it refreshingly therapeutic. Nowadays, there is much that warrants swearing, IMO.

I never heard the F-word verbalized until I was post 16-YO. I first heard the word in an old cemetery in the San Juan Islands. I had seen the word, but hadn't heard it.

I seem to have picked up an ability to know when to swear and how vehemently.

I know not to yell F**K YOU in a crowded church. Oh, but, that's right, I don't go to church.

micki said...

Nor, would I say it in a crowded theatre.

micki said...

Or, in the presence of children.

micki said...

...well, small children.

micki said...

But, if I had the opportunity I would say it to George W. Bush.

Up close, in his face, and loudly!

micki said...

I would also enjoy the saying it to Darth Cheney, accompanied by a string of epithets that would hopefully zap all the energy from his on-board batteries.

micki said...

The GOOD DADDY JUSTIFICATION LIBBY LOBBY is ratcheting up the pressure on bush to pardon Libby right tomorrow afternoon late, the Friday before Father's Day, which is this coming Sunday, June 17th.

To their minds, a perfect poignant impression.

DEN said...

Carey, I show one visitor at 3:03EST; 76.22.6.# (Unknown Organization)

They are in America,
time to learn English.

maybe Pande has some input.