Saturday, July 14, 2007

Bill Moyers

A public opinion poll from the American Research Group recently reported that more than four in ten Americans — 45% — favor impeachment hearings for President Bush and more than half — 54% — favored impeachment for Vice President Cheney.

Unhappiness about the war in Iraq isn't the only cause of the unsettled feelings of the electorate. Recent events like President Bush's pardoning of Scooter Libby, the refusal of Vice President Cheney's office to surrender emails under subpoena to Congress and the President's prohibition of testimony of former White House counsel Harriet E. Miers in front of the House Judiciary Committee have caused unease over claims of "executive privilege." In addition, many of the White House anti-terror initiatives and procedures — from the status of "enemy combatants" in Guantanamo to warrantless wiretapping — have come under legal scrutiny in Congress and the courts.


Lets get down to business, impeachment business that is.

Before it is too late.



micki said...

I have been trying to spread the word on this idea. I realize it's just one aspect of getting the word out, but at least at the grassroots level, I've gotten very positive feedback.

If any of you want to bombard MoveOn and TELL THEM the American people are READY for impeachment, please contact them and any other likely suspects. Thanks. I just sent this to Laura Flanders at Air America. We gotta spread the word. It takes a lot of hot air.

Dear Laura:

My husband and I are trying to help create a nationwide groundswell of interest for impeachment. Rather than re-invent the wheel by re-writing what comes below, I'll just tell you that I initially sent the idea to Thom Hartmann, subsequently sent it also to:

...because they will join Thom in Seattle tonight. I also sent it to John Nichols at The Nation (but used their web form, so I don't know if he will see it). Yesterday afternoon, my husband sent it to Wes Boyd at MoveOn. Here's the idea:

Wes --

Talk of impeachment is gaining steam in the wake of a new opinion poll that says nearly half of Americans favor impeaching Bush and more than half want to impeach Cheney.

Tonight on Bill Moyers' Journal, he and his guests will explore that possibility. With that in mind, I thought of's effective use of nationwide house parties, meetups, etc. and wanted to share this idea that my wife presented to Thom Hartmann yesterday. (She also sent her suggestion to Stephanie Miller, Mike Malloy, Cenk Uygur and Ed Schultz who will join Hartmann in Seattle tomorrow at a forum, that Thom is moderating.)

It would seem to me that MoveOn could partner with Thom Hartmann and his colleagues at Air America get the ball rolling. It wouldn't hurt to get a middle-of-the-road, or conservative organization involved, too -- lots of those folks have had it with the Bushies trashing the Constitution.'s her idea:

Bill Jackson

July 12, 2007

Mr. Thom Hartmann
c/o KPOJ Radio
4949 Southwest Macadam Avenue
Portland, OR 97239

Dear Thom:

I am one of your regular listeners (on AM1090, Seattle).

For a long time, I felt that Bush and Cheney deserve impeachment, but was reluctant to get on the impeachment bandwagon. However, a critical mass of impeachable offenses has come together and I am 100% in favor of a serious effort to remove them from office.

This may seem like a silly idea, at first reading, but as Ethel Merman said in Gypsy, “ya gotta have a gimmick.”

I would like to propose that someone (such as YOU), call for citizens to host National Ice Cream Socials over the Labor Day Weekend. They would serve MmmmmPeachMint ice cream. (Preferably made with Texas peaches and mint chocolate chunks.) A rallying slogan could be, “Enjoy MmmmmmPeachMint -- it’s good for your Constitution.”

Using the Ice Cream Social as the venue for this effort would be reminiscent of early America where the ice cream social was often a gathering spot to discuss social, charitable, political activities. I have tried to get some local ice creameries to feature MmmmmPeachMint as a “short term” flavor, but so far none of them have put it on their menu.

It is time to launch a surge for impeachment. This could be the start of the first massive grassroots’ effort to inform Americans on the importance of impeachment. Town, city, county, state politicians would be invited to attend. If these National Ice Cream Socials were held throughout the land, brought to the attention of local and national media, and fueled with the sweet taste of MmmmmmmPeachMint, this could be the start of something big!


Micki Jackson
Bellingham WA etc.

micki said...

Den, well too much of a "good thing" has very often turned out to be a very, very bad idea. FoE are not necessarily against the concept, they just want it to be done on solid science -- not primarily for profits motives. Lots of wrinkles to be ironed out before massive dumping...

DEN said...

Next step?

Randi Rhodes needs to hear from you.

call in and e-mail.

DEN said...

OOPS! crossed thoughts!

micki said...

Oh, boy. The busheviks are playing with fire on this one! Refusing to turn over documents relating to Pat Tillman's death is going to light a firestorm for impeachment (not that the refusal is an impeachable offense, but what it signifies about the secrecy, etc.).

Duh. If bush wasn't involved in any discussions or manipulation of information on Tillman's death, then what is there to hide? It gives the appearance that by the WH refusing to produce the documents requested, it was involved in discussions about the exploitation, manipulation of facts surrounding his death. Those effin bastards!

micki said...

Yeah, people. Contact Randi Rhodes, Rachel Maddow, Air America management, Bill Moyers, etc. look up pro-impeachment organizations, and GO FOR IT!

Take one hour out of your day and devote it to spreading the word. Hell, take two hours...take all day. Take back our country.

DEN said...

"Lots of wrinkles to be IRONED out before massive dumping." He, he!

It sounded to me like top people were on this iron thing, reading the Wired article.

There is solid science there and so what if someone makes a buck? massive expenses involved with a large project such as that.

I like the idea, it's like nature has given us the tools to save life on Earth by showing us how Earth does it to save itself.

An imbalance created by our behavior requires us to correct it much like punishing a child for bad behavior.

We must help the Earth recover from the damage we caused.


erling krange said...

Hi Den and friends!
I posted yesterday (in english), but there is no sign of my posting. I've been away for awhile, came home from Spain last Sunday. I'm still around, and kicking! Been busy with courtcases and so on, but no verdict yet. At this time of the year, the courts are on holiday so we can't expect anything till the end of August.
Anyway, I'm peeking at your blog, and I'm pleased that GWB is in the shit, for the time beeing.

Take care

micki said...

Den, I don't care if people make a buck either. Of course not.

But if making a buck is the primary motive, at the expense of the environment, I have a problem with it.

I'm not a scientist; I know the benefits of iron, in general terms. But, I refuse to take "on faith" that this is a good idea.

That couple featured in the Wired article is all about their own interests -- they definitely come across as being in league with the "let them eat cake" school of thought.

micki said...

Why some are skeptical about this EXPERIMENT

Potential negative impacts of the Planktos experiment include:

• Shifts in the composition of species that make up plankton, the base of the marine food chain, would cause changes in all the species that depend on it.
• The impact of gases released by both the large amount of phytoplankton blooms induced by Planktos, Inc. and resulting bacteria after the phytoplankton die.
• Bacterial decay following the induced phytoplankton bloom will consume oxygen, lowering oxygen levels in the water and changing its chemistry. This change in chemistry could favor the growth of microbes that produce powerful greenhouse gases such as nitrous oxide.
• The introduction of large amounts of iron to the ecosystem - unless it is in a very pure form, which is likely cost-prohibitive at the scales proposed - would probably be accompanied by other trace metals that would be toxic to some forms of marine life.

In the waters around the Galapagos, some 400 species of fish swim with turtles, penguins and marine iguanas above a vast array of urchins, sea cucumbers, crabs, anemones, sponges and corals. Many of these animals are found nowhere else on earth.

Den, I know that these potential negative effects are "what ifs" -- but what if the EXPERIMENT was a colossal failure?

DEN said...

36 square miles is not much of an area.

Should experiment in less vulnerable areas of the ocean, not in the Galapagos though.


DEN said...

One more thing, which is worse; Planktos or Halliburton?

micki said...

One more thing, which is worse; Planktos or Halliburton?

We don't know yet. They could prove be equally destructive.

Jeanne said...

The timidity in the impeachment debate is a strong statement about the Bush administration. People are always afraid of the next move of a tyrant so they sit by waiting for somebody with a strong conviction to stop the madness. This administration has made even the most diehard Republicans cringe. I have friends who stood behind Bush for years and are now just as sick as I am of the whole mess. Impeachment sends a message. They need impeachment and accountability. I say the accountability should come in the form of lawsuits. If you want to sting them hit the pocketbook.

Jeanne said...

Whenever I hear about your travels I get so jeolous.

carey said...

Yeah, Micki, Randi!

I'm busy getting the idea out. Hi everyone.

Most especially hi to Jeanne!

carey said...

Oh shoot, I meant a special hi to stranger Erling also.

Leg Al said...

Did George W. Bush and his minions commit another crime? Telling a person not to show up in response to a subpoena appears to be against the law under this description. Did he commit a felony under federal criminal law?

18 U.S.C. Sec. 1505 : ... Whoever corruptly ... influences, obstructs, or impedes ... the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress ... [s]hall be fined under this title, [or] imprisoned not more than 5 years ... or both.

18 U.S.C. Sec. 1515(b): As used in section 1505, the term "corruptly" means acting with an improper purpose, personally or by influencing another, including ... withholding, [or] concealing ... information.

micki said...

You're right Jeanne...too much timidity. I admit I was reluctant to push for impeachment, but I have since changed my mind because a critical mass of evidence has clearly emerged that shows impeachment is necessary.

Last night on Bill Moyers' Journal, conservative lawyer Bruce Fein said:

"[Bush's crimes are more] worrisome than Clinton's because he is seeking more institutionally to cripple checks and balances and the authority of Congress and the judiciary to superintend his assertions of power. He has claimed the authority to tell Congress they don't have any right to know what he's doing with relation to spying on American citizens, using that information in any way that he wants in contradiction to a federal statute called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. He's claimed authority to say he can kidnap people, throw them into dungeons abroad, dump them out into Siberia without any political or legal accountability. These are standards that are totally anathema to a democratic society devoted to the rule of law."

And Fein was one of the authors of the impeachment articles against Clinton!

micki said...

Ta-da! Perfect timing.


erling krange said...

Jeanne, don't envy my travel! A few years ago I found that I've been to almost 80 countries, without learning anything. It's just now, 2007, that I've been enlightened. I've learned that the human race is a selfish, egosentric bunch of idiots. Number one is GWB. Do take care my American friends.
With love

Gerald said...

Unimpeachable Conservative

Gerald said...

Unimpeachable Conservative

Gerald said...

Sorry about the double post! My computer seems to be acting up.

Gerald said...

The Core Abomination

Gerald said...

George W., the Bad Plumber

Gerald said...

W has made the US weaker

Gerald said...


DEN said...

leg, this is just the latest on the list of laws broken by the C&C and Co. broken and shredded to bits.

Flipping the country off.

They found it worked so well for them they did it with Pat Tillman.

Laws are only good if they are enforced.

Cuff 'em and stuff 'em! ASAP!

DEN said...

Erling & Jeanne, welcome back!!

We missed you!

Well I did anyway, did I mention my split personality?

Daryl and my alter ego, Daryl.

DEN said...

Erling, you nailed it, narcissism runs rampant with humanity, even worse now that money rules the roost.

We are all guilty to some extent, but some are really bad.

Gerald calls it Nazi America.

Nazis were full of themselves with their master race crap.

The relentless pursuit of money turns many inward.

David B. Benson said...

After all that hot air, I could sure use some

Emmm Peach Mint ice cream.

Double scoop, please.

Oh wait, I forgot Gonzo.

Make that a triple scopp, if you will...

DEN said...

Alan sent me this, thought it was cool.

There's still talent out there.

DEN said...

Speaking of cool vids, I posted a pile of GIF image vids on the front page, lots of creativity in the work.