Sunday, September 16, 2007

Honest Hagel

Of course this vid is all over the internets, so no exclusive here.

Regarding the Repug party:

"Oh, I think it's been hijacked by incompetency...driven the republican party right off the cliff", Sen. Hagel.

Got that right Chuck!!!

Something about Hell and a handbasket?



DEN said...

Time to ride and forget all about idiot politics.

Carry on!

Carey said...

Since my backyard is downright scenic with an old view revisited after my son, Danny, cut back trees a whole bunch, I don't have to travel for paradise! Don't know when I'm moving--that is not up to me but hard to explain why--but, hell, we sure are enjoying it.

I heard that 2008 is predicted to be the hottest year ever. How surprising and shitty.

One comment from the Sunday shows. When are people going to get to the nitty-gritty of it and call a spade a spade? It's an occupation. We're fighting the Iraqis for control of their oil. It is fucking simple!

God, one gets mad at those shows. Since it's election time, gotta keep up--monitor how the corporate media is controlling public consumption and attitudes.

Gerald said...

Carey, I do not watch sports that often because I believe that we are over-saturated with sports. I never watch a sport from the beginning of the game to the end of it. Seasons tend to overlap. Pro basketball ends the last week in June and hockey ends the middle of June. Baseball goes to Halloween and football ends the first week in February.

It is difficult not to hear from Washington unless we travel to the tip of the Arctic with no TV or radio. We are totally bombarded with sports, politicians, and conservative talk show hosts. The Nazi talk show hosts control 64 % of the MSM. Rupert Murdock controls our news coverage in favor of Nazi propaganda.

Gerald said...

Misery, mutilation, destruction, terror, starvation and death characterize the process of war and form a principal part of the product.
– Lewis Mumford

I can picture Nazi Americans licking their chops with the very thought of war.

Gerald said...

Finally, a Nazi tells the truth

Gerald said...

Greenspan’s damning comments about the war come as a survey of Iraqis, which was released last week, claims that up to 1.2 million people may have died because of the conflict in Iraq — lending weight to a 2006 survey in the Lancet that reported similarly high levels.


Gerald said...

Bush set to bomb Iran

Gerald said...

Miss Rice’s bottom line is that if the administration is to go to war again it must build the case over a period of months and win sufficient support on Capitol Hill.

The Sunday Telegraph has been told that Mr Bush has privately promised her that he would consult “meaningfully” with Congressional leaders of both parties before any military action against Iran on the understanding that Miss Rice would resign if this did not happen.

The intelligence officer said that the US military has “two major contingency plans” for air strikes on Iran.

“One is to bomb only the nuclear facilities. The second option is for a much bigger strike that would - over two or three days - hit all of the significant military sites as well. This plan involves more than 2,000 targets.”


Gerald said...

Published on Sunday, September 16, 2007 by
The Banality of Evil Revisited
by Bud McClure
Hannah Arndt was exactly right in 1963 when she had an epiphany while writing about Adolph Eichmann, realizing in a profound moment of clarity that the great evils in the world are not the work of a few sociopaths, but are committed by ordinary people who accept what they are told by their government and then precede to normalize whatever actions they might take. Sadly, under the right circumstances, we are easily persuaded to do the bidding of the state when it comes to killing.

Six years ago we were rabid for revenge and war making. Many thought that killing bin Laden and his protectors, the Taliban, would settle the score for the attack on our country. However, the President and his men wanted a wider battle, so they used lies and propaganda to sell a war with Iraq. Through the power and resources of the state, war making with Iraq was promoted as honorable, clergy gathered to anoint it a just cause, and most people accepted without question what they were being told. They responded with the shameful flag waving and nationalism that masqueraded as patriotism. Those that urged restraint and voiced opposition to the war were savaged as traitors.

But after five years, support for the war has plummeted, because the war people got was not the one they were sold. People believed, like Bush, it would be a war on the cheap, quick, requiring no sacrifice or human cost, a real feel good kind of war. But is has been anything but cheap. In seeking to atone for being bamboozled by Bush they recently elected enough Democrats to cut off funding and end the war. But they got fooled again. Ironically, the Democrats would rather appear weak and helpless when dealing with Bush so as not to appear weak and helpless on war making. In response, many people feel resigned to continue what appears to be a never-ending war. They have moved on in their lives choosing to ignore the atrocities committed in their names.

Overtime the normalization of behaviors even extends to officers of the state who had a hand in promoting the war. Nowhere was that more on display this week than during the congressional hearings on Iraq. In the dulcimer tones of civility, men and women went about carrying out their state duties in hearings ostensively designed to find out some truth about a monstrous war. Far removed from the carnage they have created in Iraq and the stench of rotting bodies, they calmly chatted about the minutiae of their war. With no display or even any sense of outrage they quietly listened as the General smoothed over any rough edges that might cause them to lose the least little bit of sleep in their comfortable beds at night.

The only bit of reality and dignity that was interjected into any of the hearings were the shouts from the anti-war protestors who were quickly silenced when they were removed from the room. Their truth is that we murdered a lot of people, destroyed a country for nothing, and have created more hatred and animus in the world that will surely come back like a rushing tide and wash over us in the years to come. But that reality does not exist within the vocabulary of the state and our elected representatives were careful not to stray from their script.

Two days after the hearings ended, President Bush, propped up in the background by the symbols of state, spoke to the nation. Like Eichmann, the consummate bureaucrat carrying out his duties, Bush too demonstrated once again that he lacks the necessary imagination to understand the morality of what he is doing and the human costs involved. Weeks earlier, in another carefully staged event, Bush spoke to a national VFW convention full of old men. He led them in cheering the war and as such the slaughter and maiming of the next generation of young servicemen and women. Just last week we learn that he told the Australian prime minister that we were “kicking ass” in Iraq. Perhaps the best example of the banality of this man occurred during a recent interview with his biographer. When asked what he will do when he leaves office he responded, without the least sense of shame, that he was interested in making money to replenish his coffers that had been depleted during his years in office.

However, Bush is only a co-conspirator in this ongoing drama along with the plotters and planners, the technicians and bureaucrats, the generals and soldiers who all go about their daily duties unfazed by the consequences of their actions doing just what they are told to do. Meanwhile our elected officials sit in leather bound chairs pontificating about trivia. They wonder aloud whether or not troop levels should be reduced by a few thousand soldiers over the next year, all the while raiding the treasury to continue funding this immoral war. Even John Boehner, the house minority leader, dismissed the bloodletting and human carnage as insignificant to the greater mission of the state.

And what about the rest of us, those who championed this war from the outset and those of us who knew better. What is our responsibility for this evil? Decades from now will our grandchildren wonder how we could have allowed this carnage and will they question why we stood by and did nothing.

Bud McClure is a professor of psychology at the University of Minnesota Duluth and can be emailed at

micki said...

Gerald Miss Rice should resign. She should have resigned long ago. She's a diplomatic failure. She's bush's most reliable female toady.

micki said...

I have this sinking feeling that the corporatists are going to tout the opening up of the Northwest Passage as a HUGE plus! They are going to downplay the global warming consequences and play up that the "route could vastly trim shipping miles" from Europe to Asia.

Ship more shit!

Gerald said...

Micki, I do not understand why anyone with any kind of morals would want to work in the Hitler Bush regime? This is why I have so little respect for Colin Powell and what he now says is totally meaningless. Why would any decent American fight in Hitler Bush's wrong and immoral war? And, why would a person march into hell for Hitler Bush, a low life scumbag? Working in the Hitler Bush regime places a person's human soul at grave risk and eternal damnation!!!

Gerald said...

The only bit of reality and dignity that was interjected into any of the hearings were the shouts from the anti-war protestors who were quickly silenced when they were removed from the room. Their truth is that we murdered a lot of people, destroyed a country for nothing, and have created more hatred and animus in the world that will surely come back like a rushing tide and wash over us in the years to come. But that reality does not exist within the vocabulary of the state and our elected representatives were careful not to stray from their script.

A paragraph from Bud McClure's article, "The Banality of Evil Revisited!"

Gerald said...

When we look at the Blessed Trinity, there are three persons in one God. The Holy Spirit is to guide us toward heaven; Jesus gives us love and mercy; God, the Final Judge, bestows judgment. When we go before God, He will look at our Book of Life and pass judgment. We will not be able to offer any excuses for our actions and deeds. We will have to accept the consequences of our actions and deeds. HEAVEN OR HELL WILL BE THE JUDGMENT!!! That will all and nothing more!!!

Gerald said...


Gerald said...

Heaven or hell, that will BE all and nothing more!!!

Gerald said...

Posters, the Son of God, Jesus, gave us a commandment at the Last Supper. He said to us, "Love one another as I have loved you!"

Posters, these words have real meaning and real consequences!!!!!

Gerald said...

I beg and plead with all of you who are Christians, please return Christ to the words, Christian and Christianity. Please do not accept bushianity as your religion! It is a religion founded on the pillars of hatred, mass murders, war crimes, torture, corruption, decadence, greed, and lies.

micki said...

Gerald, an administration that acts all sanctimonious but operates on the premise that torture is sometimes okay -- ya gotta get tough crapola -- is dead to all sense of morality. They are dead to making ethical judgments. So, the short answer is, Miss Rice does not conduct herself within the framework of what most people would define as moral behavior. That's why she can continue to work for/with/on behalf of the busheviks. She is one of them. In my opinion...

micki said...

Carey -- isn't it fun to have a private paradise in your own backyard? We have that here, too.

I have to tell y'all about my Sweet Baby Girl tomato plant. I planted one SBG plant which I purchased from Joe's Garden's here in B'ham -- the seedling was sprouted in organic soil.

I potted it in organic soil and organic compost and fed it regularly with organic fish fertilizer and decided to keep track of the number of tomatoes I picked FROM ONE PLANT! I've harvested 326 and the plant still has scads left on it, at various stages of ripeness.

My heirlooms are not ripening yet....sigh.

micki said...

Carol -- how's your harvest, at this point?

micki said...

Carey -- in case you missed it, I posted Frank Rich's column @ Den's Saturday post.

As usual, Rich zeros in....

micki said...

The shorter shipping routes could mean less pollution. But what a trade-off....less pollution, but a melting polar ice cap that is not good for the entire world.

But, would be it possible for the shorter routes to result in so much less pollution, that the ice cap refroze over time?

Dr. B, you'll have to figure the math on that one.... ;-)

micki said...

Oh, goodie. Alan Keyes has confirmed he's running for the GOP '08 nomination. What a looney!

Maybe he learned all his looney shit when he was Bill Kristol's roommate in grad school?

Gerald said...

Micki, Mushroom Rice is one of them. She was one of them before she became sec of state. A resignation would prove that she is not one of them but do not look for that to happen.

Gerald said...

Oh What a Tangled Web We Weave

Gerald said...

Is Bush the Ruler of Terrorists?

Gerald said...

Now most of the tribesmen have come to the conclusion that Al-Qaeda is the creation of rulers led by President Bush. This was the reason that they do not want its elimination. With each passing day the terrorists and Taliban have been strengthening their position.

This statement must be true!!!!!

Gerald said...

Chesterton says, "The greatest stumbling blocs for Catholicism are Catholics"

Boehner is a Catholic.

Gerald said...

Mr. Boehner, by saying the loss of life is a small price in relation to this war, you owe an apology to our military and the family members left behind to grieve a lifetime. You owe the same apology to the innocent Iraqis devastated by this war. And incidentally by using uncertain words like “if” you have undercut the military. Good job, Mr. Boehner.

Gerald said...

Please read this article!!!

The Nightmare Is Here
By Bob Herbert
The New York Times

Saturday 15 September 2007

We've heard from General Petraeus, from Ambassador Crocker, and on Thursday night from President Bush. What we haven't heard this week is anything about the tragic reality on the ground for the ordinary citizens of Iraq, which is in the throes of a catastrophic humanitarian crisis.

President Bush may not be aware of this. In his televised address to the nation he warned that a pullout of U.S. forces from Iraq could cause a "humanitarian nightmare."

A trusted aide should take the president aside and quietly inform him that this nightmare arrived a good while ago.

When the U.S. launched its "shock and awe" invasion in March 2003, the population of Iraq was about 26 million. The flaming horror unleashed by the invasion has since forced 2.2 million of those Iraqis, nearly a tenth of the population, to flee the country. Many of those who left were professionals marked for death - doctors, lawyers, academics, the very people with the skills necessary to build a viable society.

The Iraq Ministry of Health reported that 102 doctors and 164 nurses were killed from April 2003 to May 2006. It is believed that nearly half of Iraq's doctors have fled. The exodus of health care professionals in a country hemorrhaging from the worst kinds of violence pretty much qualifies as nightmarish.

While more than two million Iraqis have fled to other countries, another two million have been displaced internally. According to the Global Policy Forum, a group that monitors international developments:

"Most of these internally displaced persons, or I.D.P.'s, have sought refuge with relatives, or in mosques, empty public buildings, or tent camps.... I.D.P.'s live in very poor conditions. Public buildings are particularly unsanitary, often overcrowded, without access to clean water, proper sanitation and basic services, in conditions especially conducive to infectious diseases."

Iraqis are enduring most of their suffering out of the sight of the rest of the world. International relief organizations and most of the news media are largely kept at a distance by the insane levels of violence.

Access to safe drinking water is a problem in much of the country. (The World Health Organization was asked to help with a recent outbreak of cholera in parts of Kurdistan that is believed to have been caused by polluted water.) Sanitation facilities are routinely crippled by violence and sabotage. The economy, like the country's infrastructure, is in shambles.

The worst aspect of the nightmare, of course, is the rain of death that has descended on Iraq since the U.S. invasion. Controversy has surrounded virtually all attempts to estimate the number of civilian casualties, but no one disputes that the toll is staggering.

The U.S. government has behaved as though these dead Iraqis were not even worth counting. In December 2005, President Bush casually mentioned "30,000, more or less" as the number of Iraqis killed in the war. The White House later said there were no official estimates of Iraqi deaths.

We shouldn't be so cavalier. Based on all available evidence, it seems unreasonable to believe that fewer than 100,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed thus far. Many very serious scholars believe the total is much higher.

As for the number of wounded and disabled Iraqis - men, women and children who have lost limbs, or been paralyzed or otherwise maimed in air, rocket and bomb attacks - no one has a real grasp of the size of the problem.

"Just considering the number of the dead and the number of displaced, this is probably the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world," said James Paul, the executive director of Global Policy Forum, which recently compiled an extensive report on the war and occupation. "This is the biggest displacement of people in the Middle East in a very long time."

The effect on children of the carnage, the dislocations and the deteriorating quality of daily life has been profound. Conditions in Iraq were dire for children even before the war. One in eight died before the age of 5, many from the effects of malnutrition, polluted water and unsanitary conditions.

Now, more than four years after the invasion, huge numbers of Iraqi children are finding themselves orphaned, homeless, malnourished, and worse.

According to Unicef, the U.N.'s children's agency: "Many children are separated from their families or on the streets, where they are extremely vulnerable to abuse and exploitation. Most children have experienced trauma but few receive the care and support they need to help them cope with so much chaos, anxiety and loss."

These are just a few of the things you won't hear much about from the American officials in Washington who profess to care so deeply about the people of Iraq.


Gerald said...

Bushie, you're doing a heckava job!!!

ยบ¿carol said...

This is the second year of various heirloom tomatoes. I don't think we'll go that route next year. I think I know why they're not mass marketed: they don't taste that good and they rot on the vine. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with my soil though.

That said, I haven't had to buy a tomato in weeks. I pick some every day. Even if they're not that good, they're wonderful in my salad.

David B. Benson said...

Micki --- No math needed. The answer is


What we actually need, more than anything else, is to stop burning coal!

More later...

micki said...

Dr. B -- I am grateful that there is more to come from you later.

I knew the answer was NO, I was being facetious about the "exchange" on the shorter route -- my *question* was taken directly from the reichwing POV. I was just being a smartass about the math. Sorry. I know it's not a joking matter.

Gawd. I feel like I'm in a confessional.

micki said...

Carol -- Kristin planted heirlooms this year and they are GREAT! Go figure.

David B. Benson said...

Micki --- Gaol humor, while waiting for the hangman. I knew you was joke'n.

In 1850 the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was 288 ppm. It is now 383 ppm due to anthropogenic effects, fossil fuel burning, land use change (principally deforestation), concrete production, etc. These effects have added about 482 Gt of carbon to the active carbon cycle. (The carbon in the atmosphere, upper ocean, biomass and some in the soil). So, to get back to 283 ppm, a decrease of 100 ppm in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, requires removing about 500 Gt of carbon of the active carbon cycle.

But even 283 ppm may not be enough. For there appears to be no effective way to lower the yearly additions of methane (other than everybody stop raising cattle, whiich won't happen unless everybody is dead). Methane in the atmosphere is probably at a higher level now than during the Eemian (but there is simply no means of measuring or estimating the methane concentration during the Eemian.)

So to avoid dangerous amounts of melting of Greenland and Antarctic ice, it may be necessary to reduce the caron dioxide concentration even further, to say 263 ppm. (I'm guessing.) That would require removing a further 50 Gt of carbon from the active carbon cycle, for a grand total of 550 Gt to be removed.

Carbon dioxide is 27% carbon by weight. So if the removal is via carbon dioxide sequestration in deep saline formations, it would require seqestering

2037 Gt

of carbon dioxide!

This might be possible to do very efficienctly, say $20--40 per tonne.

That's an expenditure of

40--80 trillion dollars.

But maybe, just maybe, we have 50 years to do it in. Then that's only 800 billion dollars to 1,600 billion dollars per year.

I am not encouraged by the prospects of avoiding sea stand rise, despite the fact that those sums are only a fraction of the world economy, per year.

Somebody else, though, can figure out the cost of rebuilding all the coastal cities in the world...

micki said...

Okay, good.

No penance then!

micki said...

Q&A: Iran and the nuclear issue -- a premer

micki said...


David B. Benson said...

GWP (gross world product purchasing poswer parity), IMF 179 countries only, $44 trillion (2005 est.).

So $1.6 trillion is 3.6% of the total and ought to be affordable and action started!

David B. Benson said...

power, not 'poswer'.

Turns out there is ice core methane data. Nothing remarkable that I can see about the Eemian, so the big rise in temperature and hence the high sea stand is most probably due to carbon dioxide.

At about 290 ppm, in quasi-equilibrium, over about 300--600 years.

We are currently at 383 ppm, and certainly nowhere near climate equilibrium.

I hope I'm giving you nightmares...

DEN said...

It's a nightmare just knowing that dick-n-doofus are still in charge.

DEN said...

Doc, de-carbonization of the atmosphere will take years just to get started and will have to flood some coasts before they will do that.

That said.

Form a corporation to apply the techniques to do just that with all the corporate interests on the planet subsidizing it, mainly fossil fuel producers and consumers.

Those that reap shall have to pay for the privilege. Effective project management with many worldwide participants could make it profitable as an industry itself.

De-Carbonization Moguls

DEN said...


micki said...

It is now 383 ppm due to anthropogenic effects, fossil fuel burning, land use change (principally deforestation), concrete production, etc.

I think, Dr. B, that it is time for someone in a leadership role -- with a megaphone -- to point out that those "anthropogenic effects" are, indeed, a main contributor to global warming.

It is, in large part, the influence of the enormous numbers of human beings on nature that is causing climate change.

Does anyone dare suggest having fewer (or zero) kids for the sake of the ones who are already here?

Or do we keep on killing more people through warfare to reduce population levels?

micki said...

On that happy note...I bid you adieu!

For the night....