Thursday, November 29, 2007

Jonathan Turley





State Secrets Privilege is the coverup(legal) of all coverups. The ability of this corrupt-ass administration to hide behind this and actually attempt to modify it to make it even more of a shield is another way creeping fascism is attempting to replace our Democracy.

These people are like a disease infesting every corner of our government to further their cause using this type of legal loophole for aid that infestation.

Needless to say they must be stopped, our very future and that of our children is at stake in an evil game for personal gain. Jonathan is a no nonsense guy well versed in what they are up to and the law.

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58 comments:

DEN said...

Micki, reading your last post makes me wonder why RP is running for an office he has determined is uneeded along with many other bureaucracies, the EPA? Let the courts sort out this stuff?? With the High zute lawyers against a citizen who will win? the citizen? NOT!

The Government has problems and getting even more problematic with the fascists but making what is there work and enforcing laws already on the books makes more sense than removing all protections in place now and shoving everything into the courts.

Get rid of the Fed!
Get rid of lobbyists!
Get rid of cronyism!
Get rid of fascists!

Vote NON-Repug!

DEN said...

Gouliani the set-up man for 9/11?

In retrospect, Giuliani's embrace of the emir appears peculiar. But it was only a sign of bigger things to come: the launching of a cozy business relationship with terrorist-tolerant Qatar that is inconsistent with the core message of Giuliani's current presidential campaign, namely that his experience and toughness uniquely equip him to protect America from what he tauntingly calls "Islamic terrorists"—an enemy that he always portrays himself as ready to confront, and the Democrats as ready to accommodate.

The contradictory and stunning reality is that Giuliani Partners, the consulting company that has made Giuliani rich, feasts at the Qatar trough, doing business with the ministry run by the very member of the royal family identified in news and government reports as having concealed KSM—the terrorist mastermind who wired funds from Qatar to his nephew Ramzi Yousef prior to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, and who also sold the idea of a plane attack on the towers to Osama bin Laden—on his Qatar farm in the mid-1990s.

@ THE VILLAGE VOICE

There is plenty we do not know about 9/11 with most of it hidden from view, State Secrets Privilege.

Carey said...

The conundrum of libertarianism.

I find it boring and tiresome. One looses patience arguing that crap. We did it in the sixties, for God's sakes, when we had to deal with Ayn Rand and The Fountainhead.

They build their little corners and put themselves squarely in it and for the rest of their lives they'll fight this thing. Frankly, shut up. Go think for a minute.

Turley leans libertarian, by the way. I know!

Carey said...

Libertarianism is an ideology that hasn't really started the thinking process yet. Do you know what I mean? I have little time for it.

Government secrecy, that's what I was referring to yesterday. The Supreme Court wouldn't hear a case that would have helped establish boundaries. SCOTUS is a vehicle for neocon behavior slashed with blops of evangelicism. They just call it conservatism.

Christmas will be a breeze of guiltless, soothing warm breezes, even in the cold. Just remember that dear Den. The angels will celebrate the glorious event. I love that. We'll suspend our fears for a moment or two and share our inner Christmasy feelings. That's what it's all about.

Another night of less sleep. I'm going to start sounding like Den last night after a few Brandy chasers.

Just teasing.

micki said...

In Jonathan Turley's own words @ jonathanturley.org:

I tend to be a mutt when it comes to my political views with some conservative, some libertarian, and some liberal elements.

but....when someone is libertarian with the capital "L" that's when they get really tiresome. I'm with you, Carey, on that one!

micki said...

But speaking of political labels....did ya'll catch that Romney called Huckabee a LIBERAL last night?!

The night words stopped meaning anything!

micki said...

...and RP suggested that our national sovereignty is under threat by Canada and Mexico.

More hoots.

Carey said...

Just hear those sleigh bells ringing.....

Dee, dee, deet, deet, deet, dee.

micki said...

...and that tied old hang-dog Fred said that "overturning Roe v. Wade should be our No. 1 focus right now."

For cripes sakes! What about climate change? Or healthcare? Or the economy? Or ANYTHING else?

Fred oughta just call it quits before even "Law and Order" throws him off stage!

micki said...

Carey's how's your toe?

micki said...

Carey how's your toe?

micki said...

If I were in law school, I'd want Jonathan Turley as one of my professors.

micki said...

Anyone hear from Carol?

Maybe she's got better things to do than come here. Could that be?

Carey said...

That Wayne Barrett is an interesting investigative jouralist, isn't he Den?

(He comes on Keith Olbermann now and then.) Barrett's the one who broke the Giuliani story.

Remember a few months back Lawrence O'Donnell, oh, I can't remember his last nam--writes for huffpo--predicting that mucho crap would come out about Giuliani?

Trash=Giuliani. Whatcha bet, he's soiled to the bone? He did it all by lying.

carol said...

I've been keeping up. Just haven't had anything to say actually.

micki said...

Foes Use Obama's Muslim Ties to Fuel Rumors About Him

WaPo's headline is even misleading and fueling rumors! This article appears to have been written to fan the rumors! WaPo, in this article, does nothing to critique the allegations of Obama's detractors, which have already been debunked by other more fair-minded, professional journalists. Looks like WaPo has decided to play "Muslim" as a fear card.

micki said...

Just haven't had anything to say actually.

I wish I'd get that bug. :-)

Carey said...

Yes, I did hear from Carol. She complained of the cold and that she was behind on shopping. She's undoubtedly trying to catch up. The crunch is on. The bad news was that she has what I have in the fungus dept and other complicating factors. It's a hellish pain-in-the-ass. Just as Den predicted.

The fungus is such a common problem, however. I've had to stop myself from coming to the computer to complain of the pain of a lifted nail every two seconds. I'm waiting on the podiatrist for stopgap measures and then I'm going Micki's route.

The topical route, I'm sure, is best Alan, by the way. Micki sounds like she has a winner. Some trouble but if it stops the fungus!

Carey said...

I most appreciated your word for word intricate description of the fungus having it's way with me Den.

DEN said...

When Mr. Fungus tries to have a party in your house, throw his ass out!

Carey said...

Turley is a fascinating guy. I was surprised to read he leans libertarian. He describes himself well, he's really a mutt. That's my favorite kind of thinker. It means some energy went into the thought processes.

Carey said...

This fungus guy is more of a free-loader. You can't be unpleasant enough to those people or entities. They won't notice, just like the fungus.

Carey said...

How was your dinner Carol? I enjoy your descriptions. Did Bob eat a little more carefully?

Carey said...

Last night was a farce. I stopped by for two seconds.

Saw Thompson say that Roe v. Wade thing.

As we've already lamented, these debates are for the press only. Self-designed by the corporate owners--it's a ploy to look like they're really covering the candidates when, in essense, they're directing the topics of discussion or lack of.

The design of these debates is an effective form of media control.

Carey said...

Oh my goodness!

Late Shift Work is Linked to Cancer

Next month, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, the cancer arm of the World Health Organization, will classify shift work as a "probable" carcinogen.

That will put shift work in the same category as cancer-causing agents like anabolic steroids, ultraviolet radiation, and diesel engine exhaust.

Carey said...

Police tasered a pregnant woman. She was in the police station.

Taser-happy police state. She's very pregnant!

Un-you-know-what-believable.

Alan said...

I didn't watch the repugnants debate Live, but I caught some it later on a rebroadcast. I had seen a couple of clips from "Crooks..." as well. Man, old man McCain came off as just that, an ollllllld man. The only good thing he had to say was against waterboarding, but even then, he looked pained doing it. He's toast.
I'm still kinda amazed that Rudy G could be the frontrunner. WTF, yo?! He's a serial adulterer! Then it comes out that the citizens of NYC paid for his security detail to drive out to the Hamptons so he could cheat on his wife! Many times! Then of course, he shacks up with a GAY COUPLE when he splits with his then wife. The cross-dressing SHOULD take on extra meaning with that revelation. And that's just SOME of his problems, any one of which would be front page headlines and would sink a Dem candidate if he or she did the same.
Romney's a fork-tongued sons-a-biotch, worming around the questions without answering them. 'Specially the water boarding. This election should be a cakewalk for the Dems. Let's just hope they don't find a way to mess it up. I'll only vote for Hillary is she actually wins the nomination, but damn... that'll sure fire up the knuckle-draggers to come out to vote AGAINST her.

Carey said...

There's not a one in the GOP slugfest. Not a one without serious flaws. It's laughable. But, everything is these days.

I know everyone has noticed the age on McCain. I mentioned another suspicion, was it Sunday? McCain could be fighting the first stages of Parkinson's. It, like Alzheimer's is attacking the elderly population on a massive scale.

David B. Benson said...

Just a quick note to point out I'm not clock complusive.

Carey said...

Is that a jab at Micki and her surprise at your flexible schedule, sir?

:-))

Gerald said...

Carey, in a previous post you mentioned that you played sports. What sports did you play and still play?

Gerald said...

It could not happen to a more evil country

Gerald said...

Obviously, the American people haven't a clue. In November 2007 they show a distinct preference for leaders who are even worse than the ones with whom they are currently dissatisfied. What does this tell us about the American people and their commitment to be sufficiently informed for democracy to function?

It tells us that they are not up to the challenge. It is only a matter of time before America succumbs to the plutocracy, against which Warren Buffet recently warned Congress, or the fascist tyranny that Naomi Wolf sees in our future.

SOON NAZI AMERICANS WILL FEEL THE MISERY, PAIN, AND SUFFERING THAT THEY DESERVE FOR THEIR EVIL WAYS.

Gerald said...

They are cannon fodder for Hitler Bush

Gerald said...

Playing a Waiting Game

micki said...

The Perfect Gift for Br. B!

For the free spirit or time apathetic soul....

Gerald said...

The VA's patient-to-doctor ratio also grew -- from 335 to 1, to 531 to 1, between 2000 and September 2004.

micki said...

ooops...not Br. B but Dr. B!

micki said...

Be careful of unnecessary CT scans.

Gerald said...

Staff Sergeant Michael Hall saw so many people die in Iraq he felt guilty about coming home alive. To dull the pain, he started doing, then dealing, methamphetamines. Within two years he was homeless – one of 400,000 homeless vets who sleep on America's streets every year.

Did You Know?

One out of every three homeless men who is sleeping in a doorway, alley or box in our cities and rural communities has put on a uniform and served this country.

micki said...

Oh, oh. Chuck Hagel is job-hunting.

He said the bush administration is arrogant and incompetent. (Well, duh!)

He also said he'd run as veep on a Democratic ticket, but didn't think he'd have to worry because no one would ask him.

Speculation (false rumors?) is that maybe he and Michael Bloomberg will the the Bloomberg/Hagel independent ticket.

micki said...

I'm sure making a lot of typos today.

Carey said...

You name it. Tennis, swimming, horseback riding, softball, volleyball, basketball....

Nothing professional for goodness sakes. I don't have any real talent, just love playing.

I've been meaning to say something about that. The real reason I delved into sports so intensely is: I can now. Ken won't bother me anymore about it. I can be me. So I'm being "me" rather zealously as I find myself.

Carey said...

That clock is great!

Carey said...

A perfect gift would be a poster picture of that clock, don't you think, framed?

You could give that to a lot of different, funny people.

David B. Benson said...

Carey --- Yes, it was.

Is a Br. a title for some sort of religious order. Sort of similar to Fr.?

DEN said...

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Rodney King, whose videotaped beating once made him an international symbol of police brutality, suffered minor injuries after getting hit by a shotgun blast, authorities in California said on Thursday.

An intoxicated King summoned officers to his home in Rialto, about 60 miles east of Los Angeles, on Wednesday night to report he had been shot, said Sgt. Don Lewis of the Rialto Police Department.

"He had some minor pepper wounds that looked like they were from bird shot," said Lewis, who described the injuries as "extremely minor."

Lewis said King told police the shooting took place while he was riding his bicycle in neighboring San Bernardino. King rode his bicycle home after the incident and it was not immediately clear who fired the shot, Lewis said.

@ Reuters

David B. Benson said...

Well, its now after 5pm PDT. I need to save all the daylight I can...

:-)

Anonymous said...

Br. can be the honorific for Brother Bromide or Br. Bromine...or something.

Later he becomes Fr. Bromine...

Anonymous said...

That anon was me...what's going on here?

Micki

DEN said...

Periodic sign in is a Google thing, it kicks me out and I have to re-sign in. PITA!

Carey said...

Brandon's doing studymania for tests at my sister's. I plan to watch, right now on CSPAN regular, a prominent Tianamen Square dissident speak before the Press Club.

Carey said...

Man, it trips me out to hear Mandarin, everytime. My ex spoke it.

That's wasn't what I thought it might be.

Carey said...

Tiananmen

micki said...

This is a test.

Micki said...

Julie Annie is getting closer and closer to irrelevancy.....Editor & Publisher...

Politico.com Doesn't Buy Rudy's Denial Of Its 'Shag Fund' Story

By E&P Staff

Published: November 29, 2007 10:25 PM ET

NEW YORK Ben Smith, who broke the story about former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's alleged use or misuse of city funds related to his extramarital affair with Judith Nathan, returned late Thursday with a followup.

He noted that Giuliani and his senior aides Thursday "blamed anonymous bookkeepers for his administration's practice of billing the travel expenses for his personal security detail to obscure city agencies.

"But a top aide was unable to say why Giuliani’s administration and his successor's rebuffed questions from the city's top fiscal watchdog in 2001 and 2002. City Comptroller William Thompson said Thursday his auditors were 'stonewalled' by the Giuliani administration when they inquired about the unusual billing procedures, which he called 'disturbing.'

"Instead, Giuliani and his aides focused their attention on the issue of whether the unlikely divisions of the mayor's office had been reimbursed — not why the expenses were billed to out-of-the-way agencies such as the New York City Loft Board in the first place."

In an interview with CBS, Giuliani referred to the Politico account as a "totally false story." But Smith points out: neither he nor his aides have questioned any of the facts reported by Politico.

Politico editor-in-chief John F. Harris said in a statement: “This was a fair and carefully reported story. We gave the Giuliani campaign ample opportunity to dispute the story or comment on our reporting before publishing and they did not do so. Since the story ran, we have not heard from the campaign disputing any substantive aspect of the story.”

Micki

micki said...

PITA!

Den, what does that mean?

You have to understand, I am not hip.

DEN said...

Pain In The Ass=PITA

Gotta get hip to the lingo!

HFTB=Headed For The Bed!

(Actually I just made that stuff up)

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