Monday, December 31, 2007


December 31, 2007
Looking at America

There are too many moments these days when we cannot recognize our country. Sunday was one of them, as we read the account in The Times of how men in some of the most trusted posts in the nation plotted to cover up the torture of prisoners by Central Intelligence Agency interrogators by destroying videotapes of their sickening behavior. It was impossible to see the founding principles of the greatest democracy in the contempt these men and their bosses showed for the Constitution, the rule of law and human decency.

It was not the first time in recent years we’ve felt this horror, this sorrowful sense of estrangement, not nearly. This sort of lawless behavior has become standard practice since Sept. 11, 2001.

The country and much of the world was rightly and profoundly frightened by the single-minded hatred and ingenuity displayed by this new enemy. But there is no excuse for how President Bush and his advisers panicked — how they forgot that it is their responsibility to protect American lives and American ideals, that there really is no safety for Americans or their country when those ideals are sacrificed.

Out of panic and ideology, President Bush squandered America’s position of moral and political leadership, swept aside international institutions and treaties, sullied America’s global image, and trampled on the constitutional pillars that have supported our democracy through the most terrifying and challenging times. These policies have fed the world’s anger and alienation and have not made any of us safer.

In the years since 9/11, we have seen American soldiers abuse, sexually humiliate, torment and murder prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq. A few have been punished, but their leaders have never been called to account. We have seen mercenaries gun down Iraqi civilians with no fear of prosecution. We have seen the president, sworn to defend the Constitution, turn his powers on his own citizens, authorizing the intelligence agencies to spy on Americans, wiretapping phones and intercepting international e-mail messages without a warrant.

We have read accounts of how the government’s top lawyers huddled in secret after the attacks in New York and Washington and plotted ways to circumvent the Geneva Conventions — and both American and international law — to hold anyone the president chose indefinitely without charges or judicial review.

Those same lawyers then twisted other laws beyond recognition to allow Mr. Bush to turn intelligence agents into torturers, to force doctors to abdicate their professional oaths and responsibilities to prepare prisoners for abuse, and then to monitor the torment to make sure it didn’t go just a bit too far and actually kill them. @ TNYT

This editorial should be shown to every man and woman in the US!

Wake up America! You have been hijacked and are being flown on a one way trip to economic and social hell, it is too late to change anything, resistance is futile.

Or is it?



micki said...

Den -- I am so glad you posted that New York Times' editorial!

When I read it earlier this morning, I reminded myself that even though Abe Rosenthal (apparently) made the decision to give Bill Kristol a neocon voice on the Times' Op/Ed page, the editorialists at TNYT still get it right, most often.

I am not opposed to divergent viewpoints being expressed in TNYT -- afterall, it is important to read opposing (if stupid) POVs. I am betting that Bill Kristol will not complete his one-year contract with the Times. (There I go again! Hoping.)

Today's editorial is a powerful indictment of the Bu$h Regime. Yea.

micki said...

THE GREAT DIVIDE -- Paul Krugman

...and for good measure, this is a must read, too, IMO.

DEN said...

Almost Happy New Year, will it be a better year?

Dens New year predictions:

Bush will be assassinated by a group connected to Cheney.

Cheney will take over and soon have a heart attack that makes him relinquish his command.

Nancy Pelosi takes over running the country and LIEberman insists on being in there too. More nothing gets done.

Somebody lets loose with a nuke in the ME and all hell breaks loose.

The internet is shut down indefinitely when requested to do so by the UN and the US.

Martial law is declared to prevent an attack here, borders are locked down.

Yes gloom and doom, 08 will probably stink worse than 07 ever did.

We are well on our way to self-extinguishment just a matter of time. As in grade school, a few spoil it for the rest, we are the rest.

Better get good and tanked while you can tonite,

DEN said...

I almost posted Krugman but the Editorial hit home.

DEN said...

We have identified the problem, now what do we do to correct it or can it even be.

History shows fascism does not work, however their are those that think they know the way to make it work for them. But what of the rest of us? It does not matter what we think, that has been taken away when we got shammed by the big money boys. Liars and cheats, money mongers, graft, corruption, it's all there.

Time was a mans' word meant something, personal honor and integrity were important attributes, a handshake was all it took.

A transition has taken place that has placed emphasis on self gain through any means possible. Once one is intermingled with the government through contract it is difficult to see where the two are separate, and indeed now they are not. We apply our taxes to the IRS, they turn it over to the corporations through contracts, heavily contracted corporations come out the big winners here.

I do not think there was a way for us to have prevented this from occurring but we know it needs repair and are by in large helpless to do anything about it.

The Military and Industrial Complex

Gerald said...


Dear Posters:

The title of this open letter is “Shocked.” I gave this letter the title because a friend of mine in finance has said to me that Hitler Bush will declare martial law and cancel the 2008 elections. I have discussed this possibility with him for three years and he refused to agree with me. So, when he said that the elections would be cancelled, I was shocked.

He said that the reason for his change of mind has to do with the debates and the caliber of candidates who are running for the presidency. He believes that entire bunch is useless and another Hitler Bush. Nazi Americans will not rebel when Hitler Bush declares martial law sometime in 2008. Why change the stench in midstream? With Hitler Bush you know that he is a scumbag and the others may be even worse. He now concurs with me and the cancellation of our 2008 elections.

He also said to me that more people are using the word bushianity in Nazi America. That was a bit of a shock because there are only two people in the United States of Evil that have ever openly said the word, bushianity. Only Dr. Teresa Whitehurst and I have spoken of bushianity.

I learned of the word from Dr. Whitehurst who uses it to explain the Nazi Party’s contempt for poor people and their policies that attempt to enslave Nazi Americans.

I use the word as an explanation of Nazi America’s new religion that adores, honors, and worships Hitler Bush. This religion clings to the eight pillars that glorify Nazi Americans. These eight pillars that are central to this religion are HATRED, MASS MURDERS, TORTURE, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, CORRUPTION, DECADENCE, GREED, and ENDLESS LIES.

Yes, I was shocked because maybe, just maybe, more people are becoming aware of how evil our country really is. We are a people that lusts for human blood and we become ecstatic and joyful at the sight of human carnage.


Gerald said...

What I like about Paul Krugman that he is a Republican who has chosen country over party.

The Nazis are in a good position to take back the Senate and retain the White House because our elections are rigged. Please never forget that Hitler Bush holds all the aces in his hand.

They are so rigged that California is leaning RED. With no paper trail there is no accountability. We do not have free and open elections. That is one important reason why we are not a democracy.

There is another reason for our demise as a democratic nation. We have chosen bushianity over Christianity.

Laugh if you choose but Hitler Bush is adored, honored and worshipped in Nazi America. 52% of Nazi Americans believe we should bomb Iran. We are a people that lusts for human blood and we are ecstatic and joyful at the sight of human carnage. Nazi America is wallowing in the abyss of hell.

Gerald said...

Let us discuss the word integrity!!! But, before we discuss this word, we must remember Erik Erickson's "Eight Stages of Human Development." A person must go through the various stages to reach integrity. EVERYTHING starts with basic trust. If there is no basic trust, there can be no integrity.

Hitler Bush was born into a family where basic trust was never present and so he never was nurtured in basic trust and so he never could have integrity. As the ruler of our Nazi country he set the stage for what we have become. Our people lack integrity. We have chosen to be an evil, vile, and wicked nation. We are following in the path of our ruler, Hitler Bush.

The problem is that it will take generations to gain basic trust in order to reach integrity. We do not have the patience as a people and so we will always wallow in the abyss of hell.

Gerald said...

Please, I do not want to leave the impression tha Hitler Bush alone has created our hellish existence.

We must remember that Stephen Lendman in his great article, "A Culture of Violence," has revealed to us our violent nature. This violent nature was in a latent stage for many Americans but it was present. Hitler Bush brought us out of this latent stage and here we are a killing and a torturing machine. We are mirror images of Hitler Bush and that is why he is adored, honored, and worshipped by us as a people.

Gerald said...

For some sick and perverted reason most Americans want to be like Hitler Bush.

signed out again said...

Trashy year just about done:

Calif. man saves years-worth of trash

Anonymous said...

Hey guys,

Paul Krugman is great. He has always been there kicking azz. The thing about Republicans isn't just the greed party. They are also the frozen, can't move, afraid to change, desperate housewives loving people. The candidates are banking on a population of these people running to the polls to keep things "safe" from the "liberal" candidates.


carey said...

Sorry to arrive so late. That's a surprising editorial, considering....

carey said...



carey said...


Your assessment is Marx's prediction of what would happen if capitalism was allowed to run rampant.

carey said...

Jesus Micki. Bloomberg liks Lieberman! Oh my God, he's one of those? You know what I mean.

carey said...


Darn you and your predictions. You're not off the mark.

carey said...

What I like about Paul Krugman that he is a Republican who has chosen country over party.


Really? I mean he's a Repug? Nah-ah.

involuntarily logged out said...

Happy New Year!

DEN said...

Carey, forgot to mention the earthquake and tsunami, OOPS!

Doc, weekly 'cookie break' at the googles, me too, every week it forgets who I am. It puts them in when you click the 'remember me' box.

I'm well on the way to going to sleep so you guys party your asses off with the leftover minutes of 07.

Keg in the corner and fine liquors on the side, 'hops' club meets outside in 5 minutes, bring your drinks.


MICKI said...


micki said...

JEANNE -- good to hear from you!

This is a grand time to hear from friends!

carol said...

Happy New Year in about five minutes. (ok, now it's four minutes!

Hello, Jeanne! Love when you check in.