Friday, January 04, 2008

Friday Funnies

OK today I will be brief. There is a nasty windstorm bearing down on the West Coast and I might lose power so I thought I'd slam something up here for a new thread.

Quite surprising results on the Democrat side with Obama walking away with the works in Iowa. Huckabee was no surprise considering there was no one else left except McCain, Gouliani right on the bottom were he belongs.

There are only 49 state primaries left then the conventions, lots of fun ahead.



DEN said...

Why do the bible beaters always gravitate to the repugs? 99% of the time they have some sort of sex thing in their closets even though they preach the opposite.

More Doo Doo principle in action.

DEN said...

Mark Fiore on torture

DEN said...

Jay Leno:

"Tomorrow, of course, is the Iowa caucus. As you may know, caucus is a Greek word which means, 'the only day anyone pays any attention to Iowa.'" --Jay Leno

"Iowa is also known as the tall corn state. That's why Dennis Kucinich had trouble being seen there." --Jay Leno

"It's freezing in Iowa. It's like 20 degrees in Iowa. In fact, it is so cold Hillary Clinton can actually see Barack Obama's breath breathing down her neck." --Jay Leno

"Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, one of our guests tonight, has reached what they call 'the top tier' of GOP candidates. That means during the debates he no longer has to wear a nametag." --Jay Leno

Gerald said...

Jesus was born to show us how to love

Love one another as I have loved you!

Gerald said...

Results of the Iowa caucus solidifies Bush's role as emperor of the United States.

People want change? Personally, I don't know what Americans want. Do they know what they really want? Obama or Huckabee? Really?

Another Lincoln? Another preacher who has the Bible in one hand and an uzie in the other hand? We currently have a born again kkkhristian in the White House and what has he given us? Mass murders! Torture! Crimes against humanity!

Is this what Nazi Americans want?

Gerald said...

Hopefully, Nazi Americans will awaken from their murderous ways and realize that a life of love is the answer.

Gerald said...

That is Jesus' way!!!!!

Gerald said...

Yet, I strongly believe that God and Jesus are dead in Nazi America.

Gerald said...

Instead of Worrying…

How to you approach the difficulties in your life – with thought or with worry? They’re not the same and your choice will make a huge difference to you.

Here’s what writer Harold B. Walker said about it:

“You can think about your problems or you can worry about them, and there is a vast difference between the two.

“Worry is thinking that has turned toxic. Thinking works its way through problems to conclusions and decisions; worry leaves you in a state of tensely suspended animation.

“When you worry, you go over the same ground endlessly and come out the same place you started. Thinking makes progress from one place to another; worry remains static.

“The problem of life is to change worry into thinking and anxiety into creative action.”

Make the effort to think things through and then to make the best choices that you can.

He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings you will find refuge; His faithfulness is a shield and buckler. (Psalm 91:4)

Help me to rely on You, Divine Lord. Guide my thoughts and actions each day of my life.


Gerald said...

The price of empire is America’s soul, and that price is too high.
– Sen. J. William Fulbright (Ark.)

Yet, that is the price that Nazi America is willing to pay.

Nazi Americans love to piss away money and to piss away their souls.

Gerald said...

If you want to start the weekend with a good puke, read on. Who in the world gives any credence to what Hitler Bush says anymore?

Bush trip 'aimed at curbing Iran influence'

WASHINGTON: US President George W Bush said last night that part of the reason for his trip to the Middle East next week is "absolutely" about efforts to contain Iran's influence in the region.

"I will clarify to them that the US National Intelligence Estimate means that Iran is still a danger," he said in an interview at the White House. "I will remind them that a country that can suspend a programme can easily start a programme."

According to excerpts of another interview, Bush believes an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal will be reached this year. (If you listened to Bishop Gumbleton's homily, there is no way that any accord will be reached by Nazi Israel and Palestine.)

He said the two sides must clinch a deal in 2008 in order to see the creation of a Palestinian state, Israel's Yediot Aharonot newspaper quoted him as saying. Bush sought to ease Israeli fears that any future Palestinian state could threaten its security.

However, the White House said Bush has no plans "at this point" to hold a joint meeting with Israeli and Palestinian leaders during his visit.

In a related development, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will visit Saudi Arabia tomorrow for talks on the situation in the Palestinian territories ahead of Bush's trip, the Palestinian ambassador in Riyadh said.

micki said...

One thing that scares me about Obama's victory is that his rhetoric is short on facts, reality, and satistics, but high on "hope" and "change," with no explanation as to how he hopes to achieve his much-flaunted change. Here we go again, a nation falling for style over substance.

I guess I'm a sore loser, because I am really annoyed that Obama won last night in Iowa. I've listened to his words, and gauged his readiness for the presidency, and remain totally unimpressed. Oy. As though his charisma and multiculturalism will transform the mess we're in, into positive "change!"

Sure, we all want change, but we're not going to get it from a guy who is expected to be a hero, especially when he's not known for any heroic acts. Prior to his three unremarkable years in the U.S. Senate, he was a state legislator, where his most notable record is over 130 votes of "present" to provide political cover for his political future. As I said, here we go again.

If Obama gets the nomination, there will be lots of change -- a change for the worse, with the Repugs retaining the White House for starters.

micki said...

Hey, here's some GOOD NEWS, gang! I read in TNYT that bu$h is "pondering" moves to bolster the economy.

Oh, goodie! I can't wait to see what the economy wizard will decide to do!

Gerald said...

Sins Haunt Bush in Pakistan

micki said...

Oh, and another thing.

It would be nice if the punditocracy pointed out the reality of Obama's big win last night.

Obama garnered 16 Iowa delegates to the national convention; Edwards and Clinton split almost evenly the other 29 delegates to the national convention (15-14).

Put that way, it shows (once again) the silliness in putting so much attention on Iowa. Looks more like a split decision, to me.

But........the big story is the TURNOUT. That bodes well for Dems, if that turnout trend is repeated around the country.

Now, I'll shut up. (Maybe)

Gerald said...

All this might be of little interest if only Pakistan didn’t have a cellar full of nuclear warheads. Real nuclear weapons, unlike the imaginary nuclear weapons program our leaders brandished as a reason to invade Iraq or the one they trotted out to turn up the heat on Iran - until the intelligence community pulled the rug out from under that crusade.

All of it is so complicated it must make George W. Bush’s head hurt.


DEN said...

Wild weather here today, power already went out for an hour and came back on winds blowing about 50mph!

Obamas win screws up everything, have no fear, if he gets too close he will get Wellstoned by the power moguls, I'm sure they got taken by surprise and are already making plans.

Power nazis do not like losing their control.

Would be obvious if he did get dissappeared but nothing else seems to matter to the power moguls except maintaining control.

Gerald said...


Gerald said...

The Downward Mobility of God -- To a Stable on Christmas

Carey said...

First off, Obama won Iowa.

That is so history-making, the night was Obama's. Huck's a minor distraction. Y'all know as well as I do something very big happened last night.

Big indeed. That doesn't mean he'll go all the way. Someday, I tell you.

Alright, delightful one, Micki. I know exactly what you mean about Obama. Lots of people have expressed exactly the same concerns. I share those strongly with you. That fear you speak of, I'm not so sure the momentum you saw last night will carry through specifically for Obama. But the change we have sought, the excitement has arrived. My goodness, the youth vote! I recognize your concerns about that influence too. It can look like a passing of the mantle. Sorry folks, really, there is no mantle to hand out.

May I point out in all this mist that Obama still leans towards DLC positions. Check out Ron Brownstein of the LATimes & National Journal. He illuminates certain positions Obama's taken that are "red" state. We must watch out for that sneaky influence. Clinton too.

I come out of this, cette jour, hopeful. We saw the flicker, it is lit.

It could be, as Chris Matthews has said, that this will flicker strongly all the way to 2012. It could be that Obama sweeps 2008 primaries. Could he win nationally?

I doubt it. We're not there yet. You know it and I know it. Can't quite believe last night. A little feeling of floating in an unreal universe this morn.

Carey said...

The bible thumpers and Huckabee. The entrance and exit polls don't quite match up to the evangelicals going all the way for Huck.

As Keith repeatedly pointed out last night, the independent vote alters the meaning of the stats. Obama and Edwards are in a virtual tie when you consider those, I believe. Wait, now I can't remember.

Carey said...


It may be alot to ask, but even reading Jay Leno's monologue jokes, that's crossing a picket line. We should be on "ignore" with Leno even though I sympathize with all the various elements since Leno is a writer and other's are out of work too.

The one thing I come away with is Obama's speech. The vague, esoteric references bother Mick, me too. That's his style, some have said. Actually, it's quite lovely. Maybe not appropriate at this critical juncture since we're in such a crisis. But, maybe, just maybe, his poetry is just what we need. Witness his '04 convention speech which totally bowled Winke, (sis) and my bro-in-law over. I missed it. Never have seen it, but want to.

Carey said...


Now the not-so-subtle-racist crap will come out in spades.

Yes, I said it, in spades.


Carey said...



Bush revels in stupidom and incompetence. To him, it's cool.

DEN said...

1 primary out of 50 does not a candidate make.

Carey said...

Looks more like a split decision, to me.

Man, do we need Micki. That's exactly what I was trying to point out and Keith too. The stats are not being interpreted right.

We're still in a three-way race. Don't unstrap your boots.

Carey said...


There you go, my dear. You've captured the uneasiness about the Obama campaign well.

All this talk of change, it's a young sort of movement. That's what Micki's trying to say. Does it have meat? Or is it all talk?

Absolutely! Huge concern after watching Obama's speech last night and the strong, young crowd reaction.

Of course, I was on MSNBC and have to listen to Matthew's glow about Obama. Others did the glow talk too, like Howard Fineman, Eugene Robinson.

You know who I really like through these years now? Joe Trippi! What an analyst and doer.

Carey said...

Once again, however....

A black man won Iowa. Stun-city.

Carey said...

Den. Hope you fare well today and tonight. That howling wind can alter moods, ask Micki and Carol.

Carol and Gerald are snowed in. Micki and David pretty much too. We're getting a super strong storm system here this weekend which is scary. The water has no place to go except flood. We will flood heavily this weekend.

Like David says, this is just the beginning.

In two months a major fire will sweep through. I don't know why we bother with landscaping. It has to all come down. The goal will be a cement city. How lovely in the heat of summer.

Carey said...

Houston? Are you there?

Didn't it freeze seriously this week near Alan?

Alan said...

If Obama gets the nomination, there will be lots of change -- a change for the worse, with the Repugs retaining the White House for starters.

Really? You think so Micki? I don't. Actually, I think Hillary would be most likely to lose to a repug because she brings out the worst in those bastards. She's hated big time and that tends to bring out the voters. I myself, like Edwards the best, but I have to hand it to Obama for getting out the young voters. It was him that turned my nephew into a political-aware college student, from a 'don't have time to find out, just believe whatever you hear from idiots' like the rest of his family. Indeed, while me 'n him were talking, his older sister said something to the effect of "you can't blame bush for getting us into the war (Iraq)". I was STUNNED. Her dad, my brother, is even worse with comments like "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here". Complete political zombies. ack!
So anyway, the college kids and other young people could very well be the key. I signed the pledge-thingy, to support WHICHEVER Dem gets the nomination, so bring it on!

Alan said...

Ehh, it hit freezing for a little bit two nights ago. I covered up some plants. It's been getting down close to freezing for 3 or 4 days(nights) in a row. It's overcast, which LOOKS COLD, but it's in the mid-50's right now.

David B. Benson said...

Den --- Buck up. You need the rain. So I'm glad that the major portion of the storm went south of Micki & me...

Alan --- I need you to repost (or link) your long expostion regarding building maintenance on PhysOrgForum to help squash a crazy Max Photon poster. Thanks.

Carey said...

When it comes down to it:

I signed the pledge-thingy, to support WHICHEVER Dem gets the nomination, so bring it on!

Uh-huh, let's go! Rignt on Alan.

Carey said...

Jeeze-sorry about your brother and his family, Alan. That's hard to take.

micki said...

Yeah, Alan, I do believe that. I've found, unfortunately, anecdotal evidence is not too reliable.

But, I will support any Dem over any Repug, at this juncture in history. I absolutely will. In fact, I'll be a YelloW Dog this time around.

We're expecting WIND later this afternoon, according to the WX report. 30-40, with gusts to 60mph.

A picnic compared to the previous wind storms this winter.

micki said...

Oh, gawd, how did I capitalize that W?

Mark that a lower case, pleeeeeeeese!

micki said...

W in yellow, that is...

Carey said...

As I stretch and listen to MSNBC coverage, I hear similar concerns being voiced Micki. Both winners are too preacher-like for people like David Gergen's taste. The pastor creeps out in Obama's rhetoric too much as well.

I think that's possibly bothering you a little. Me too. Ny heart sinks when Obama sinks into it.

On the race front: Micki's right. It's still a handicapp just as gender is for Clinton. That's why I celebrate that an actual black man won Iowa, of all places. My gay, now dead, good Iowan friend, is most assuredly surprised this morning.

David B. Benson said...

What is a Yellow Dog?

David B. Benson said...

Den --- You're in the headlines:

No power for about 600,000 in N. Calif.

Carey said...

Yeah, David, I'm a little confused by Micki's references too.

Tabloid journalism?

Carey said...

As I walk past my computer, I realize I haven't mentioned anything about Kenya.

Foretelling a bad thing here, Kenya will become a Rwanda. I'm afraid so. Gut feeling, this is really, really bad.

Carey said...

Worst performance for job growth since December, 2003.

You knew I'll be looking for work once I move. Will I find some? Oy vey.

David B. Benson said...

Yes, what gives with Kenya?

Somehow tribal rivalries seem to be producing violence now, when those attitudes did not before. Something's changed (and it seems to early for it to be relgional climate change.)

micki said...

Kenya has relied on tourism for years. This breakout of violence will have devasting consequences for the country, its people, and the economy. Meanwhile, the bu$h administration doesn't get it right, diplomatically, there either.

The U.S. government initially expressed support for the Kenyan govt-announced outcome of the recent election, despite pretty convincing evidence that something was terribly wrong. Our State Department backed Mwai Kibaki because of his support for the bu$h/cheney WAR ON TERROR initiatives. The United States' actions (and inaction, for that matter) are adding fuel to the fire to Kenya, which has been quite stable for years. Kenyans wish that the United States would demand -- and help them obtain -- a recount of the votes.

I know the United States can't be blamed for every ill around the world, but we butt in where we don't belong, then when chaos develops, we act like, "not my table." We are partly to blame for the unrest in Kenya because we've had years of diplomatic incompetency, which is coming home to roost.

There are lots of Muslims in Kenya, BTW.

micki said...

A self-professed Yellow Dog Democrat would prefer to vote for a yellow dog than vote for a Repug candidate.

Most self-professed Yellow Dog Democrats, these days, are liberal and/or progressive, but there was a time when a significant number of them were more moderate or conservative.

I think YELLOW DOG has its roots in Texas lore.

micki said...

Our daughter's sweet Yellow Lab was named Y.D. -- she found her as a stray in Austin, on Capitol of Texas Highway, on election day in 1992.

Y.D. -- Yellow Dog

David B. Benson said...

Ok, enjoy 2008

World to cool slightly in 2008

because it is your last chance!

DEN said...

Let me tell ya, it is a ripper of a storm, something we have not seen the likes of for a while.

Shut 'er down at work at noon, no power tree stuff all over, the drive home was not any worse than the Mineesota weather I'm used to.

Trucks and trees tipping over from the wind gusts over 60. Wild and woolly weather. Can use the water tho, just getting it the hard way.

Gerald said...

This article is so powerful that I had to re-post it.

Gerald said...

George Bush is a war criminal who has violated international law, the Geneva convention and the Nuremburg standards and needs to tried accordingly for crimes against humanity.

I have heard if Hitler Bush does not declare martial to keep hold of the WH, the Crawford ranch will be for sale and he will be moving to Paraguay. Paraguay will not extradite war criminals for trial.

Hitler Bush will never be in prison for his mass murders, tortures, and crimes against humanity.

Gerald said...

Hillary's false choices and friendship

Gerald said...

Hillary's choices and friendships may well have created her doom as the nominee for the presidency.

She has displayed terrible intuition for a woman and it may be best that she re-think her desire to be president.

Gerald said...

Hillary flopped in Iowa!

Gerald said...

Iowa’s Democratic and independent voters have made it clear to the rest of the country that voting for Hillary Clinton is to commit Democratic Party suicide. Her whole campaign has been based upon the notion that she is the most “electable” candidate in the Democratic field—a notion that now stands exposed as a pathetic farce.

Gerald said...

The rest of the Democrats seeking office or seeking re-election next fall should take heed. There is a frustrated, angry and very large bloc of people out there—independent voters—who are looking for progressive candidates who will not just talk in buzzwords, but who will act to restore some semblance of Constitutional government in America, and who will end the damned war in Iraq. If they’re lucky, those voters might giver them one more chance despite the wretched betrayal of November 2006.

David B. Benson said...

Chinook Wind just blew in, but not like Den's windstorm...

Gerald said...

These independents have sent Hitler Hillary, Hitler Pelosi, Hitler Reid, and the Hitler Democrats a clear message - DON'T SCREW WITH US!!!!!

Do not look for the Democrats to take back the WH or hold onto the Senate!!!

Does it really matter who murders human beings? Murder is murder whether the Nazi Democrats do the mudering or the Nazi Republicans.

Birds of a feather flock together. There is no difference in the two parties.

Gerald said...

The Nazi Democrats have betrayed America and Americans.

The Nazi Democrats have given Americans one big BOHICA from January, 2007 to January 4, 2008.

These BOHICAs are starting to hurt.

Carey said...

Why do the bible beaters always gravitate to the repugs?

It's a similar denial of reality and real moral values.


Something's changed

Sort of, those tensions have always been there I believe. My sister lived there at one time during the seventies. But, you know, you are very right.

Something's changed and it's really bad.

Gerald said...

If Hitler Pelosi wants to regain some respectability, she must call for impeachment hearings to determine whether or not the impeachment process must go forward.

Carey said...

bu$h is "pondering" moves to bolster the economy

He was on that thar TV thing talking about it. Same ole stupid crap. He keeps saying they're going to help the sub-prime mess. Uh-huh.

Herald Gerald,

If Hitler Pelosi wants to regain some respectability, she must call for impeachment hearings

Right on.

David B. Benson said...

George XLIII pondering? Not more capable of pndering than George III was...

Carey said...

Micki understands about Kenya more. I don't, I just know it's bad and must be looked at properly. People in the streets of Nairobi were saying that.

Kenya's been a hotbed for years.

Gerald said...

Carey, I believe, what Hitler Bush revels in is the fact that the majority of Americans think like him, speak like him, and behave like him. Stupidity is contagious in Nazi America.

Carey said...

I wonder what Yosemite looks like right now in Den's storm.

Carey said...

Who is the young black governor speaking on Obama's behalf in New Hampshire? He's a governor, of what? Not New Hampshire.

Carey said...

No, no, Gerald, Bush is an elitist. His world outlook is frat boy. That's the group he thinks he's impressing with his juvenile male behavior.

Gerald said...

It appears more than ever that the independent voter will hold the key to the 2008 elections, if we have these elections.

I also seems to me that Hitler Bush will create a toxic or a hate full experience before the 2008 elections in order to declare martial law.

Gerald said...

The independent voter has placed the Democrats and the Republicans in a corner like scared scurvy rats that they are.

micki said...

As we yak about the idiosyncrasies in our political process, Kenya has its own set of electoral problems. I spent some time in Kenya, years ago, and I loved it. Tensions are always at a slow boil there.

Ethnicity decides an election in Kenya. Mwai Kibaki, the incumbent, and his main challenger, Raila Odinga, were once allies in the struggle to overthrow a 24-year autocracy in Kenya.

Kibaki is from the largest ethnic group — called the Kikuyu, based in central Kenya. The Mau Mau rebellion was a Kikuyu uprising, which helped gain independence from Britain. Jomo Kenyatta, the 1st president of independent Kenya, was Kikuyu.

Odinga is a Luo, Kenya's 2nd largest ethnic group. The Luo are mainly in western Kenya. No Luo has ever been president of Kenya, but now many Luo feel it is their turn.

But neither the Kikuyu nor the Luo are big enough to win in enough provinces to become president, so both groups needed support from the other 40 (or so) ethnic groups to claim the presidency.

There were irregularities in the recent election. Ethnic groups took exception. The world turned a blind eye. Violence has resulted. In fact, the violence flared even before the election. Incumbents in Africa are especially hard to beat. Kenya is no different, in that regard, than other African nations.

Africa will kill itself through ethnic uprisings, or die because of climate change.

MICKI said...

CAREY -- Democrat Deval L. Patrick, first African-American elected governor of Massachusetts.

micki said...

No, Carey, I don't undersand the Kenyan sitution any better than you do. But, that doesn't keep me from trying to figure it out, just like you do. :-))

I *wonder* about a lot of things.

David B. Benson said...

Five and seventy.

Are we aiming for 100?

The posts need to be solid in order to playfair...

David B. Benson said...

Carey --- Looks like you and Brandon are going to experience it very shortly:

California hunkers down for major storm

Carey said...

We are hunkered down. So interesting about Kenya.

Posts have to be substantial, huh? Censorship of poetic license and chat mechanics!

A land of endless conflict, Africa. They have some of the best leadership order and conflict resolution setups in their societies from an anthropological standpoint.

Iowa, another land of contrasts. A black man and a hard Southern Baptist? Say what? Whatever you say about the land of corn husks, you gotta hand it to them.

ºCºarol said...

Den, are you there? I read Doc's weather article. Lots of stuff going on. Hope you didn't lose power!

can't stay signed in said...

Well, substantial just means you actually have something to communicate, if only chat.

Isn't fair just to post that this is comment #79...

Blast! I've been signed out again by bloviators/giggle!

David B. Benson said...

Foo on Bloviators/Giggle!

David B. Benson said...

What is the price of chicken?

The true cost of cheap chicken

That's in Britian, about the same or a little better than in the U.S.A...

Carey said...

David hasn't even had a libation yet and he's funny.

Den's power is out, I'm sure. Look at the map. Yikes. It's coming.

David B. Benson said...

Much less funny after a libation.

No wit then...

micki said...

Foo on Bloviators/Giggle!

Is that fair play? Do we need to call in the posting police? :-)

Carey said...

Winke would like to add to the conversation on some of Micki's qualms about Obama. I concur wholeheartedly, too, that Obama's speechs leave you hungry. Kiki says one feels like you've "gorged on Cool Whip." You keep reaching for substance, there's lots of inspiration, lots of feel good, no solutions. No meat.

Edwards is angry and it shows. I would add here that Obama is black. That's how he must consider every single aspect of every single thing he does. Everything! From the perspective of speaking in a black body. He cannot show his anger, can he? No sir. Not a tad.

Edwards gets specific. Obama fluffs. Perhaps the difference is in the skin color?

No, it is not. Obama is a red state candidate too often for my tastes. He's awfully middle-of-the-road. Is it because he's careful and black? Or is it because of ideology and record like Clinton?

David B. Benson said...

A town in NSW, Australia, just exxperienced 300 mm of rain in only three hours.

Hard to turn your shower up that far...

micki said...

Holy climatey!

That article Dr. B posted said there could be as much as 10 FEET OF SNOW from the 3 storms hitting the CA mountains.

micki said...

Kiki says one feels like you've "gorged on Cool Whip."

Tell Kiki that the main ingredient in Cool Whip is the same ingredient that goes into lubrication for condoms.

I read that in WIRED magazine.

David B. Benson said...

The Sierras really need the snow. Looks like the mountains are going to get it all at once.

This year.

David B. Benson said...

Libation time!

I have to practice my new word for today.


micki said...

I don't know, Carey. I think it would be perfectly acceptable for any candidate to show anger -- black, white, brown, whatever color -- as long as that anger is directed at finding solutions. Martin Luther King expressed his anger eloquently and forcefully, but encouraged nonviolent solutions to seemingly intractable problems.

Everyone gets angry about something, and if that anger is used in a positive way, it is a powerful motivator to accomplish good things.

micki said...

Hey, Dr.'s a word I just learned the other day. I think it is a really good word to know. Maybe you already know it...

pogonip \PAH-guh-nip\ noun
: a dense winter fog containing frozen particles that is formed in deep mountain valleys of the western United States

Example sentence:
"The white wafer sun sports a halo, and nearby hills are veiled in pogonip." (Bill Croke, _The American Spectator_, March 1997)

Did you know?
Readers of _The Old Farmer's Almanac_ might recognize the odd-sounding warning, "Beware the pogonip!" So what's a pogonip? In the mountains of the western United States, the fog condenses into tiny, biting ice particles in extremely cold weather. The English-speaking settlers who encountered this unpleasant and sometimes scary phenomenon when they went out West in the 1800s needed a word for it. They borrowed "payinappih" ("cloud") from Shoshone, altering it to "pogonip."

Carey said...

Everyone is not Martin Luther King, Jr., though.

Yes, it is there. Jackson experienced backlash, Obama would too. Absolutely, yes, nationally, oh God yes.

How do you reckon Obama got as far as he has? He is smart and calculating like he has to be. It's all about racism in his world and reality, yes it is. No two ways about it.

He got here by playing it very carefully, very intelligently. He read the vibes and their intricacies, those of myriad racist elements and counterfactors, etc.--he's figured it out. Nobody has up until now.

That is huge. That is monumental. You are witnessing history and this is not understatement. It is huge.

Carey said...

If I've said anything at all today, the most important is that we are witnessing incredible history.

Don't underestimate this, live in it's moment. It's very big, I say celebrate. We've witnessed a dream come true, a small part of it.

A black man won Iowa. Jesus.

Carey said...

I'm so silly.

this is not understatement

Overstatement, of course.

Carey said...

In listening to Elizabeth Edwards on Hardball I realize I left out an enormous chunk of what Kiki was trying to say.

Edwards is the candidate addressing climate change. He's addressing, specifically, the corps. It's about the corps.

Edwards is the only candidate who even comes close to seeing the urgency of the climate crisis. Not Obama, that's for sure. IMO, Clinton doesn't address these urgent matters.

º¿carol said...

#97 post.

micki said...

Well, call me naive, but I don't think it's any great shakes that Iowa went for Obama. It's notable, but not terribly meaningful. Iowans are no more tolerant or intolerant than Massachusettites (?) or Virginians are, and both of those states have elected black governors (Deval Patrick D-MA; and Douglas Wilder D-VA), and New York and Maryland have elected black lieutenant governors.

Granted, those men were not presidential candidates, but they still won with white votes making the difference.

A black candidate cannot rely on the black vote alone to get elected. This means the candidate must reach out to other races and groups to become elected to public office, especially in the election for the United States Senate -- and the presidency, of course!

Three blacks have been elected to the Senate since that time: Edward W. Brooke, a liberal Republican from Massachusetts, and Carol Moseley Braun and Barack Obama, both Democrats from Illinois

I just don't see Obama's *win* last night as having anything to do with race. The people who supported him liked his message of change -- it's not a black or white message.

micki said...

Will Obama be able to show anger -- and use it wisely -- if the media decides to go for the jugular if he wins the nomination?

Is he going to try to be statesmanlike -- think Gore and Kerry -- when he is Swift-boated with innuendoes that he is a Black Muslim? Will he be able to fight back at all the provocative shit that the GOP hate machine will throw at him? Why do you think Chris Matthews is salivating for an Obama candidacy?

Shoot, I wouldn't be surprised if we see Fox and even CNN and MSNBC using flashback videos of the Black Power Movement to "depcit" progress in racial relations -- nothing like reigniting the imagination.

Obama had better learn how to show anger, and use it effectively, or we're in for a world of hurt if he gets the nomination. I don't want an Age of Aquarius candidate, I want one who will fight -- and show some anger.

NEXT.........#100 Come on, someone!

Alan said...

And the winner of "100 posts blog-a-thon" is...

*startled look* and
*ducking all the bells and whistles*

Did y'all see the "The MitteryRomniton-3000" at Crooks?