Tuesday, February 12, 2008

Chris Dodd



Dodd: And the idea that this body would grant retroactive immunity in the face of these challenges and deny the courts an opportunity to determine at the mere request of a president….the major companies for years on end can sweep up—vacuum up to use the Church committees language, every telephone conversation, every fax , every email of millions and millions of Americans is a precedent I don’t think we would want to have left as part of our heritage in coming generations. And believe me they will look back to us…Constitutional lawyer and author Glenn Greenwald expressed the high stakes this way, Mr. President and I quote:

‘The Bush administration will be gone in eleven months, but in the absence of some meaning accountability all of this will remain. If these theories remain undisturbed and unchallenged. And all of these crimes go un-investigated and unpunished, that will have a profound impact on changing our national character and further transforming the type of country we are.’

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Watching Chris last night on C-Span (H/T to Carey) I wondered why no one else was there.
Is not the future of America important enough to take a stand against the MOB goons willing to trash all that is good to save their media pals from losing millions of dollars for breaking the law?

20 hours down, Chris finally wrapped up his truly patriotic defense of the Constitution and the rule of law. I wish everyone could have seen and heard the passion in his voice toward his country, defending it rightly against the attack of the WH Mob Bosses.

It says a lot about where we are as a country when we allow torture, warrantless eavesdropping, unlawful detention of 'enemy combatants', extraordinary rendition and the rest.

I remind you that these markedly illegal actions are from one source, the WH Mob Bosses.

So to sum it up, the WH and certain members of Congress should be charged with TREASON and nothing less and brought to trial for their indiscretions, NOW!

Kudos to Senator Dodd for being the textbook definition of a true Patriot and doing what he swore an oath to do, defend The Constitution from our 'domestic' enemies.

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61 comments:

DEN said...

Hey kids, C-Span is covering the debate on several FISA amendments today for those interested.

Meanwhile a new day has begun here on the Left Coast and there is work to be done.

Coffee in the corner, bagels on the side, will someone please get the Cream Cheese, I forgot to.

Dig in!

DEN said...

Dodd amendment to remove retroactive immunity for the Telcos failed to reach the number of votes needed to approve it.

Carey said...

Good morning Densters!

Yes, yes, yes, Dodd was just remarkable. So proud to be an American while watching him, truly. I wholeheartedly agree, it was quite a show.

Shoot anyway.

One word of caution as Obama picks up delegates today. The press is overdoing the reporting of his success somewhat. It is even steven and will be a brokered nomination.

I'm fairly sure Hill has Texas, Penn., and Ohio wrapped up. They are her kind of people.

Yeah, right Carey. You know so much. No one can predict this.

Carey said...

Goodness, don't forget in all the consumer sales ads.

Happy Birthday Mr. Lincoln!

Carey said...

I saw an article this weekend. Think y'all might like it.

Oh, Brother!

How George torpedoed Jeb's presidential hopes and sank the family's political dynasty.

DEN said...

Once a screw up always a screw up!

Gerald said...

Change

Dear Posters:

In this open letter I would like to address the current phenomenon of change that seems to hysterically caught Americans. Obama is credited for this current phenomenon. For me change takes place everyday in our lives and Obama has not invented the word, change.

The change that I hope for in America can be heard in Bishop Thomas Gumbleton’s recent homily. Please listen to his words! His words are the change that we need for a better America and a better world.

Please type in this link to listen to the words of Bishop Gumbleton and CHANGE - http://ncrcafe.org /node/1602

The homily is about fifteen minutes but it is well worth the time listening to it.

The change we need is in the words of Bishop Gumbleton.

Sincerely,
Gerald

David B. Benson said...

La Nina predicted to hang around until May or so.

Average length La Nina.

You will find that you prefer it to the following El Nino...

Gerald said...

Senator Dodd usually speaks with passion and conviction on certain issues. But, I must ask, "Where are the patriotic Americans when we need them to speak with passion and conviction?"

Gerald said...

Churches of Peace

Gerald said...

Anyone who believes in the church enough to see it as a meaningful human community (in all of its varied forms from huge mega-churches to small Quaker meetings) is able, on reflection, to see that the church should be the focus of an effort to make the third way of human relationships which Jesus revealed as the foundation of peacemaking and world renewal. It is time for the church to truly live what Jesus lived and taught. As Christians we must ask ourselves--Are we really following in the footsteps of Jesus? Are we working for peace or are we promoting war? Jesus’ third way is the hard way but it is the only way to true peace.

Gerald said...

WHY AM I ALWAYS RIGHT?

Gerald said...

8.Even with the Republicans at the bottom of the polls and Bush/Cheney scraping the bottom they seem to behave as if they fully expect a Republican in the White House in 2009--them. Other similar signs include the huge embassy in Iraq, and the permanent bases (denied by Bush). Only a Republican neocon in power will need these things. For these reasons i expect that our two term limit will not apply to Bush and that he fully intends to stay. All he has to do is declare a national emergency and his EO will apply and allow martial law. Oops, i forgot, he has already declared a national emergency in his EO of august 1, 2007 (Syrian meddling in Lebanon constitutes an “unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States,” Bush asserted, adding, “I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.”

If McCain wins in November, and he might if the Republicans, the moral family oriented party, can throw Florida, Ohio and now Pennsylvania, I suspect he may leave peacefully knowing he has a clone in office.

As horrible as this will be a Democrat win may be even worse. It certainly may be possible that Bush may see this as the National catastrophe requiring martial law and then we will have a full fledged dictator for life, no functioning Congress or SOTUS.

HITLER BUSH WILL NEVER LEAVE THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!

Gerald said...

I forgot, he has already declared a national emergency in his EO of August 1, 2007 (Syrian meddling in Lebanon constitutes an “unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States,” Bush asserted, adding, “I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.”

Remember this date August 1, 2007!!! Hitler Bush has declared martial law and he will never leave the White House. Yes, Hitler Bush has already declared martial law. Why were we sleeping? These primaries are a big joke!!!!! They are meaningless!!!!!!!!!!

Gerald said...

Prepare yourselves for the imperial despotic ruler in the White House for life!!!!!!!!!!

Hajji said...

Yeah, Man...

Gerald said...

Hitler Bush is a demonic, deranged, diabolical, and depraved lowlife coward who will never leave the White House.

Nazi Americans must feel good to go to sleep in their self-righteous.

The United States of Evil is the devil incarnate nation.

Gerald said...

IMPRINT THIS DATE ON YOUR BRAIN - AUGUST 1, 2007!!!!!!!!!!

DEN said...

Not! Not! Not! Not!
Not! Not! Not! Not! Not!

NO ONE can predict the future!

Not even you Gerald.

Not even you.

DEN said...

Gerald, $20 sez none of that stuff happens!

It happens like you say, I give you $20, it does not happen like you say, you give me $20, rubber checks don't count.

Gerald said...

Hitler Bush makes me puke

Gerald said...

Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war.
– Albert Einstein

Gerald said...

Bush started a war, and now to avoid losing it Bush pays Iraqis not to attack U.S. troops!

Gerald said...

If the U.S. now needs foreign troops to save its bacon in these two lost wars, it should demand them from Israel. Israel is why the U.S. is at war in the Middle East. Let Israel supply the troops. The neocons who dominated the Bush regime and took America to illegal wars are allied with the extreme right-wing government of Israel. The goal of neoconservatism is to remove all obstacles to Israeli territorial expansion. The Zionist aim is to grab the entirely of the West Bank and southern Lebanon, with more to follow later.

Remember "mission accomplished"? Remember all the strutting neocons with their promises of a "cakewalk war"? Remember all the ignorant bragging about having "defeated the Taliban"? All of these lies were designed to tie American down in interminable wars in the Middle East for Israel's benefit. There is no other reason for Bush's invasions. We know for certain that Bush and his entire administration lied through their teeth about the Taliban and about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

What a total crock of ignorance and deception the Bush regime represents. Bush, defeated in Iraq, defeated in Afghanistan, with Pakistan crumbling in front of his eyes, is now reduced to begging the French, whom it was such grand sport for his neocon officials to denigrate, to send soldiers to save his ass in Afghanistan.

What a laughing stock Bush has made of America. What ruination this utter idiot and his supporters have brought to America. What total traitors the neoconservatives are. Every last one of them should be immediately arrested for high treason. Neonconservatives are America's greatest enemies, and they control our government! All Americans have to show for six years of Bush's "war on terror" is an incipient police state.

Now standing in the wings is mad John "Hundred-Year War" McCain. Will the American electorate wipe out the Republican Party before this insane party wipes out America?

Gerald said...

What a laughing stock Bush has made of America. What ruination this utter idiot and his supporters have brought to America. What total traitors the neoconservatives are. Every last one of them should be immediately arrested for high treason. Neonconservatives are America's greatest enemies, and they control our government! All Americans have to show for six years of Bush's "war on terror" is an incipient police state.

Hitler Bush is the equivalent and as relevant as a crock of shit.

Gerald said...

DEN, I do not want to take your money.

Gerald said...

The Nazi Israeli Military To Step Up Its Mass Murders

Gerald said...

The Israel Defense Forces and the Shin Bet internal security service are preparing to step up assassinations against key Hamas figures in the Gaza Strip in response to the continued Qassam rocket attacks against Sderot. The renewed campaign of targeted killings is not likely, at this stage, to include members of the Hamas political leadership.

Gerald said...

Goodbye to all that

Gerald said...

So listen to her voice:

“For too long, the history of women has been a history of silence. Even today, there are those who are trying to silence our words.

“It is a violation of human rights when babies are denied food, or drowned, or suffocated, or their spines broken, simply because they are born girls. It is a violation of human rights when woman and girls are sold into the slavery of prostitution. It is a violation of human rights when women are doused with gasoline, set on fire and burned to death because their marriage dowries are deemed too small. It is a violation of human rights when individual women are raped in their own communities and when thousands of women are subjected to rape as a tactic or prize of war. It is a violation of human rights when a leading cause of death worldwide along women ages 14 to 44 is the violence they are subjected to in their own homes. It is a violation of human rights when women are denied the right to plan their own families, and that includes being forced to have abortions or being sterilized against their will.

“Women’s rights are human rights. Among those rights are the right to speak freely—and the right to be heard.”

That was Hillary Rodham Clinton defying the U.S. State Department and the Chinese Government at the 1995 UN World Conference on Women in Beijing (look here for the full, stunning speech).

And this voice, age 21, in “Commencement Remarks of Hillary D. Rodham, President of Wellesley College Government Association, Class of 1969.”

“We are, all of us, exploring a world none of us understands. . . . searching for a more immediate, ecstatic, and penetrating mode of living. . . . [for the] integrity, the courage to be whole, living in relation to one another in the full poetry of existence. The struggle for an integrated life existing in an atmosphere of communal trust and respect is one with desperately important political and social consequences. . . . Fear is always with us, but we just don't have time for it.”

She ended with the commitment “to practice, with all the skill of our being: the art of making possible.”

And for decades, she’s been learning how.

So goodbye to Hillary’s second-guessing herself. The real question is deeper than her re-finding her voice. Can we women find ours? Can we do this for ourselves?

“Our President, Ourselves!”

Time is short and the contest tightening. We need to rise in furious energy—as we did when Anita Hill was so vilely treated in the U.S. Senate, as we did when Rosie Jiminez was butchered by an illegal abortion, as we did and do for women globally who are condemned for trying to break through. We need to win, this time. Goodbye to supporting HRC tepidly, with ambivalent caveats and apologetic smiles. Time to volunteer, make phone calls, send emails, donate money, argue, rally, march, shout, vote.

Me? I support Hillary Rodham because she’s the best qualified of all candidates running in both parties. I support her because her progressive politics are as strong as her proven ability to withstand what will be a massive right-wing assault in the general election. I support her because she knows how to get us out of Iraq. I support her because she’s refreshingly thoughtful, and I’m bloodied from eight years of a jolly “uniter” with ejaculatory politics. I needn’t agree with her on every point. I agree with the 97 percent of her positions that are identical with Obama’s—and the few where hers are both more practical and to the left of his (like health care). I support her because she’s already smashed the first-lady stereotype and made history as a fine senator, because I believe she will continue to make history not only as the first US woman president, but as a great US president.

As for the “woman thing”?

Me, I’m voting for Hillary not because she’s a woman—but because I am.

Gerald said...

Goodbye to all that

Me? I support Hillary Rodham because she’s the best qualified of all candidates running in both parties. I support her because her progressive politics are as strong as her proven ability to withstand what will be a massive right-wing assault in the general election. I support her because she knows how to get us out of Iraq. I support her because she’s refreshingly thoughtful, and I’m bloodied from eight years of a jolly “uniter” with ejaculatory politics. I needn’t agree with her on every point. I agree with the 97 percent of her positions that are identical with Obama’s—and the few where hers are both more practical and to the left of his (like health care). I support her because she’s already smashed the first-lady stereotype and made history as a fine senator, because I believe she will continue to make history not only as the first US woman president, but as a great US president.

As for the “woman thing”?

Me, I’m voting for Hillary not because she’s a woman—but because I am.

Gerald said...

"We are, all of us, exploring a world none of us understands. . . . searching for a more immediate, ecstatic, and penetrating mode of living. . . . [for the] integrity, the courage to be whole, living in relation to one another in the full poetry of existence. The struggle for an integrated life existing in an atmosphere of communal trust and respect is one with desperately important political and social consequences. . . . Fear is always with us, but we just don't have time for it.”

She ended with the commitment “to practice, with all the skill of our being: the art of making possible.”

And for decades, she’s been learning how.

THAT IS WHY HILLARY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE OF ALL THE CANDIDATES!!!!!

DEN said...

Gerald, why not, I'd take yours?

Put up or...

Gerald said...

Obama will only give us bullshit.

Gerald said...

DEN, I just do not want to take another person's money.

Alan said...

Poll: Obama edges McCain; Clinton an even match

Does this show the 'conventional wisdom' that repugs would come out in droves to vote AGAINST Clinton, but some secretly like Obama? Or is this plain bullshyt, because McCain is having problems getting support from within his OWN party, and therefore won't have the votes to win regardless of who it's against?

{ò,ó}arol said...

Don't do it, Hungary!!!

I saw a caption under a picture in the Detroit Free Press this morning. I just HAD to get the whole story and here it is. Unfrickin'believable.

BUDAPEST, Hungary: Police used tear gas to chase protesters away from parliament Monday, after lawmakers approved a disputed bill introducing major reforms in the country's health sector.

Blah, blah, blah....
The most disputed part of the bill is the creation of 22 health insurance firms — to begin operations in April 2009 — in which the government plans to sell stakes of up to 49 percent to private companies.
(I can't effin believe this!)

Critics fear the for-profit investors will drive up health coverage costs and discriminate against the poor, the elderly and those with pre-existing health problems. (ya think???)

Already, the government has shut down or merged several hospitals across the country and introduced daily fees for doctor's visits and hospital stays.

Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany and the Free Democrats have said that attracting private companies and investors is essential to improve health services. They have sought to assure citizens that no one will be excluded from medical care.
(oh, yeah? If anyone believes that then I've got a bridge over the Danube to sell them)

The Free Democrats, who control the Health Ministry, initially wanted an even greater role for the private insurers, but their proposal was watered down by the Socialists, many of whom reacted to the widespread opposition to the reforms among voters. (To think a country with national health care would choose to emulate the U.S. I just can't believe this.)

David B. Benson said...

Hungary has, I believe, rather severe financial problems...

David B. Benson said...

The Rapture is coming!

World's largest Christ statue struck by lightning

Quite an impressive photo, anyway...

DEN said...

Yup, and the BIG ONE is on it's way here in the West.

Soon, very soon.

Hajji said...

Benson,

The only thing that is a SURE thing is that, so far at least, every single person (and there's been more than just a few) in history who predicted the "Rapture" or "The End is Near" or "The Second Coming" or "Armageddon" in their lifetime...

...Has been DEAD WRONG!

Ok, maybe the Second Coming, but then the Savior would've already been arrested, medicated and locked up in a Mental Institution for the rest of his/her short life.

It IS a cool picture, though!

-T

Hajji said...

Den,

You mean "Earthquake", right?

I have it on good authority that we're overdue for a cataclysmic eruption of the Yellowstone Cauldera by a hundred thousand years...give or take a few grand.

That'll be REALLY messy!

-T

NBC already calling VA for BHO...

Looks like Huckleberry's gonna take Virginia, at least!


Speaking of Huckelberry...what do you call a Bass-Player who just broke up with his girlfriend?

David B. Benson said...

I'll bite:

I give up, what do you call a Bass-Player who just broke up with his girlfriend?

David B. Benson said...

Micki --- Letter writing time:

High-tech giants seeking massive tax break

Den --- That is your (fairly) inexpensive electricity that those server farms will be consuming, helping to drive up your electricity bills as well as mine and Micki's.

Carey --- Some of your electicity comes from around here as well. Watch your bills go up!

David B. Benson said...

Say goodby to LA and San Diego as we know them now:

Lake Mead could go dry by 2021

Oh Las Vegas, too. Good ridance.

Gerald said...

A few years back we were in Lake Tahoe and we read that the lake was 10 to 20% polluted. Since it is a deep lake, the people were not aware of the pollution. I thought that I also read that in 20 years the lake would be 40 to 50% polluted. Water is a precious commodity.

Hajji said...

Benson...

Homeless (ba dat da chiz!)

tytandanmar said...

Obama is on a roll. Hillary is taking a good old fashioned whooping to say the least. This was to be the coronation of Hillary and the return of the Grifters to the White House. Not gonna happen. Wouldn't be prudent. Hillary's donor base is tapped out and others are starting to look toward Obama as the best opportunity to beat McCain. I second that emotion.

Hajji said...

Virginia exit polls guestimate that while Obama was the choice of 90% of Black Voters...

...he was ALSO the choice of around HALF of White Voters!

And they said his garnering of 25% of white voters in South Carolina(in a 3+ way race) was a BIG DEAL.

I got yur "Race Card" right here!

-T

Hajji said...

Looks like I jumped the gun on Huckleberry in VA.

Too Bad!

...but I think his wife will let him come home, at least.

(and that's what really matters to a bass-player!)

DEN said...

Oh great! Hordes and masses heading north from 'down there', yikes!

Carol, Hungary?? for dollars!

Hajji, the Yellowstone caldera has been rising at a remarkable rate, don't want to be around when that baby burps.

Calamities-O-Plenty just waiting to happen.

Obama will be president next January unless some crazy bastard shoots him first.

This is not a real pretty world we live in, it is real, but not pretty, so many good people have been lost to bullets or plane crashes(mysterious), we desperately need some results from our hopes, a lot is riding on this thing.

tytandanmar said...

For all the talk on this site by a particular contributor of Bush being in the White House forever, it will not happen. Bush could have easily rode off into the sunset with a government pension in 2004 ala Lyndon Johnson in the middle of a war. Bush hoped to end it by the end of second term. Won't happen. And it won't happen in the first term of the next administration regardless of who it is. I will make this bet though. Hillary and her machine will sue to win the nomination. Even if it means losing in 2008 to get it done.

Hajji said...

Clinton ally: Some whites 'not ready' for Obama
____________________

HARRISBURG, Pa. - Gov. Ed Rendell, one of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most visible supporters, said some white Pennsylvanians are likely to vote against her rival Barack Obama because he is black.

"You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate," Rendell told the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in remarks that appeared in Tuesday's paper.

_____________________

Well, dey damn sho' better GIT READY!!

-T

DEN said...

Hajji, a relatively insignificant number of 'black dislikers out there any more. I am pleasantly surprised.

No need for discrimination anywhere for any reason in the 21st Century!

Clinton sue? and grenade the Democratic party?
That would mean she is a DINO like LIEberman and playing everyone for a fool for what? The RNC?

tytandanmar said...

I believe Rendell meant that some Liberal whites are not ready to vote for a black. Not only does he inject his racism in the comment he tries to blame it on conservatives. What a racist hypocrite and the Clinton campaign are full of them. The reporter was probably shaking his or head thinking yes, those damn conservatives. Another show of idiocy for not calling the governor on it.

Carey said...

First the Christ statute photograph, then the Lake Mead story. Are you trying to tell me something David?

Tydananmar,

Hillary's donor base is tapped out and others are starting to look toward Obama as the best opportunity to beat McCain.

I believe you're right according to the latest polls. McCain spoke tonight surrounded by a small group of old people. Talk about not looking prudent. He looked old, encircled by old. Obama has all the youth and vitality in the world going for him. He could beat McCain.

Hillary and her machine will sue to win the nomination.

Highly interesting suggestion. You might be on to something.

Carol,

That's just awful, dreadful news about Hungary. God, someone stop them.

Den,

There's plenty of racism left. You're about to see it enormously exploited if Obama wins the nomination.

Oh boy, are you about to see it exploited.

Carey said...

Sorry, I'll learn how to spell that name. Ty, oh, next time.

Hajji said...

Clinton deputy campaign manager quits
_________________

Somebody tell them to PICK UP THE CHAIRS, when re-arranging...

Those nasty scuffs on the deck, from all their draggin', are gonna need to be sanded and re-finished!
__________________

Looks like they don't need ME tonight...

I'll rest-up for 3/4.

Ohio, here I come!

tytandanmar said...

Den,

I don't think Hillary will sue to sabotage the party. I think she will sue to get the Michigan and Florida delegates seated at the convention. She is going to need them if Obama continues on this streak and takes Ohio or Texas or both. And the sad part will be that she will be bucking the pre-agreed rules of the DNC not the RNC to get them seated. All the other Democrat candidates abided by the rules. Remember, rules do not apply to Clintons. They are the chosen, well maybe not by the electorate.

tytandanmar said...

Carey,

Don't worry. Tyler, Tanner, Daniel and Mark are the names of my sons.

tytandanmar

I'll get your message no matter how you address me.

tytandanmar said...

Carey,

Speaking from the conservative side, I will not vote for John McCain. Neither will I vote for Huckabee or Romney. I do not think the Republicans even put up a conservative with a chance to win this year. At least on the Democrat side, history will be made with the their nomination.
And at least, there is excitement over Obama. Nothing even remotely close on the Republican side and it will not change with the VP choice. You vote the top of the ticket. The RNC is about to find out about money woes when nobody wants to give money to McCain. Jus t not going to happen.