Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Brit UFO's

Files released on UFO sightings

A sketch of a UFO [Pic: National Archives]
This is how one person described the UFO they had seen

Secret files on UFO sightings have been made available for the first time by the Ministry of Defence.

The documents, which can be downloaded from the National Archives website, cover the period from 1978 to 1987.

They include accounts of strange lights in the sky and unexplained objects being spotted by the public, armed forces and police officers.

One man explained in great detail his "physical and psychic contact" with green aliens since he was a child.

The writer said that one of them, called Algar, was killed in 1981 by another race of beings as he was about to make contact with the UK government.

The letter's author said he visited their bases in the Wirral and Cheshire, while his wife reported seeing a UFO shot down over Wallasey on Merseyside.

The eight released files are part of almost 200 files set to be made available over the next four years.

These documents will be available to download for free for the first month.

A spokesman for the National Archives said they were now becoming available after several requests made under the Freedom of Information Act, and also because of a "proactive move by the Ministry of Defence for an open and transparent government".

Much of the previously classified paperwork is made up of correspondence from the public sent to government officials, such as the MoD and then-prime minister Margaret Thatcher.

You can go. You are too old and too infirm for our purpose
Reported alien comment to pensioner

Another document reveals the experiences of a 78-year-old man who alleged that he met an alien beside Basingstoke Canal in Aldershot, Hampshire in 1983.

He said he went on board the craft, giving a detailed explanation of it, before being quizzed by the aliens about his age.

He was then told: "You can go. You are too old and too infirm for our purpose."






Saladin said...

And now that the Vatican has given it's blessing I can believe in UFO's without fear of Hellfire!

DEN said...

Subject: Senator McCain's lobbyist problem

Dear Friend,

Recently two of John McCain's lobbyist supporters resigned from his campaign almost immediately after news came to light that they had lobbied for the brutal military junta in Myanmar.

But that's only the tip of the iceberg. McCain has more than 100 lobbyists working for his campaign, at least ten of whom have represented foreign governments with abysmal human rights records.

I just signed a petition calling on McCain to fire three of the very worst lobbyists currently on his payroll -- I hope you will too.

Please have a look and take action.



Not that the doofus would listen anyway but I like aggravating neo-cruds.

DEN said...

I have seen a UFO personally, it was really, really big, bigger than a house (a really big house) and I did see lights around it evenly spaced, it was silent flying low over rural MN. It flew over the road I was driving down with my friend, (we were sober).

DEN said...

AMMAN (Reuters) - Jordan's state security court jailed three Islamists for 15 years on Wednesday for plotting to assassinate U.S. President George W. Bush during his visit to the kingdom in November 2006, judicial sources said.

They said the court, which commuted their sentence from death to 15 years because they were young, found them guilty of plotting to carry out terrorist attacks and of possessing automatic weapons and explosives. The sources said the three were in their 20s but did not give specific ages.

Security officials said the three were arrested two days before they planned to attack Bush.

The three, who prosecutors say do not belong to any known Islamist group, were also accused of planning unspecified attacks on the U.S. mission in Jordan and a brewery.

Jeez don't blow up the brewery!

micki said...

Well...if the Vatican has sprinkled holy water on the possibility of UFOs, are they now nun-identified flying objects?

DEN said...


David B. Benson said...

UAP, not UFO.


MICKI said...


The Interior Department declared the polar bear a threatened species Wednesday, saying it must be protected because of the decline in Arctic sea ice from global warming.

Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne cited dramatic declines in sea ice over the last three decades and projections of continued losses. These declines, he told a news conference, mean the polar bear is a species likely to be in danger of extinction in the near future.

micki said...

DR. B -- They are UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) only to the Flying Nuns.

micki said...

This is the first time the Endangered Species Act has been used to protect a species threatened by the impacts of climate change.

There has been concern within the business community that such an action could have far-reaching impact and could be used to regulate carbon dioxide.

Changes coming down the pike?????

David B. Benson said...

The Flying Nuns had better learn to dodge.

Changes coming down the pike, ready or not!

DEN said...

Doc, I would like your opinion on THIS when you have a spare moment. Thanks!

David B. Benson said...

Tim Ball is also well-known to be a fool.

But not the kind you want to dance with.

But also, he is out-of-date in his denialism. For the global temperature is now much warmer than that prevailing during the so-called Medieval Warm Period.

In fact, it is now, or will be in just 2--3 more decades, as warm as at any time that humans have practiced agriculture, the Holocene. As we leave the comfort of the Holocene on our climate adventure, we are in serious danger of leaving agriculture behind.

DEN said...

Why would someone oppose Global Warming in such a strong manner?

To be the fool?

Notoriety for something that is not true?

I would not risk my meager reputation on falsehood to such a degree, why would he?

DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a Psychiatrist (but I play one on a blog.)

Global Warming seems obvious to me with all the fossil fuel burning going on, generating all kinds of gasses which I cannot even name, but there is a limit to which any eco-system can be pushed.

To cut down the rain forests which exchange a tremendous amount of CO2/Oxygen and pump fossil fuel spent gasses(CO2, NOX, etc.) into the atmosphere and expect it to absorb all you can pump out is being a fool.

BALANCE is needed, all life is a balance in time, one thing helps another and the harmony is there.

Why would a man waste his time and others to profess such that GW does not exist?

I'm stumped.

David B. Benson said...

Others have done it because Big Oil paid them to.

I think Tim Ball is an Aussie, so I dunno.

Anyway, the central problem is an example of The Tragedy of the Commons...

DEN said...

I guess that is one downside to not having a college education, I missed some stuff.

Tradgedy of the Commons for those like me.

DEN said...

Articulating solutions to the Tragedy of the Commons is one of the main problems of political philosophy. The most common solution is regulation by an authority. Frequently, such regulation is in the form of governmental regulations limiting the amount of a common good available for use by any individual. Permit systems for extractive economic activities including mining, fishing, hunting, livestock raising and timber extraction are examples of this approach. Similarly, limits to pollution are examples of governmental intervention on behalf of the commons. Alternatively, resource users themselves can cooperate to conserve the resource in the name of mutual benefit.

Another solution for certain resources is to convert common good into private property, giving the new owner an incentive to enforce its sustainability. Effectively, this is what took place in the English "Enclosure of the Commons". Increasingly, many agrarian studies scholars advocate studying traditional commons management systems, to understand how common resources can be protected without alienating those whose livelihoods depend upon them.

Sounds rather Democratic doesn't it?

We are the only beings on this Earth specifically able to take care of it, structure is needed, the pillaging must stop for the good of "The Commons".

Hajji said...


Obviously (from your many keen insights) a college education is hardly requirement of intelligence, only a gage for those who get a chance to match their wits against an educational system designed to challenge it.

A poor son of an iron-worker who was son of a coal miner, I was lucky to get a few scholorships, grants and loans.

For those today who wish to "get it on paper", the debt is far more than some sweat of the fathers and being a lucky slacker in secondary education. It is the challenge of coming up with similar funds to buying a house or starting a small business...

It is prohibitive and out of reach for so many as to be criminal.

Hopefully, Edwards on the "bandwagon" will turn the platform somewhat to lifting up those in poverty to a level they can persue...and be competitive in...all levels of education in the US.

Only then can we call ourselves a nation founded on the principle that "all men (persons) are created equal" !


DEN said...

Hey Alan! Wasupwitdis?

"They're itty-bitty things about the size of fleas, and they're just running everywhere," said Patsy Morphew of Pearland, who is constantly sweeping them off her patio and scooping them out of her pool by the cupful. "There's just thousands and thousands of them. If you've seen a car racing, that's how they are. They're going fast, fast, fast. They're crazy."

The ants _ formally known as "paratrenicha species near pubens" _ have spread to five Houston-area counties since they were first spotted in Texas in 2002.

The newly recognized species is believed to have arrived in a cargo shipment through the port of Houston. Scientists are not sure exactly where the ants came from, but their cousins, commonly called crazy ants, are found in the Southeast and the Caribbean.

"At this point, it would be nearly impossible to eradicate the ant because it is so widely dispersed," said Roger Gold, a Texas A&M University entomologist.


Alan said...

Den, you shoulda looked up Tim Ball while you were there at Wikipedia. He indeed was or is, supported by the energy industry. Same as the guy doofus Sal posted. Forgot his name... but his Wiki entry was even worse.

Did y'all catch Obermann's "special comment" tonight? WOW!

DEN said...

Hajji, with Ed's support BIG O will be going places.

Unity of the party is essential to defeat the neo-crud death cult.

DEN said...

KO ripped the chimp a new one!

Alan said...

hmmm, I haven't seen or heard of them ants. Pearland is right across the street from me, literally. I'm in the next town over per se... but my street is one of the borders. Pearland on one side of the street, and my town on the other.

Me 'n the wifey built a house in Pearland before we had kids, and lived there 18 years.

DEN said...

It's up at C&L if anyone missed it.

Hajji said...

Great, Alan,

First, y'all send me these GD "Far Aint's" I'm just coming to terms with...and now this...

Whydoncha just infect the entire country with some lame-assed Yankee wanna-be Urban Cowboy with more cow-pies between his ears than on his "ranch" and...oh...nevermind...sorry...the ant's will be just fine...thank you very much...


Hajji said...


"...And now that the Vatican has given it's blessing I can believe in UFO's without fear of Hellfire!..."

Yup, but you'd better not advocate your kid "wrapping his wrasckal" to keep outta the fatherhood category... THAT'd be a SIN!


Alan said...

I hear ya Hajji. My only 'splanation is... Dubya isn't from Texas at all. He's just another yankee that infiltrated. There's more of 'them', than us home-growned.

Hajji said...


The Far Aints came from somewhere else, too! Your mission, from now on, is to stop that shit before it can spread!

(We'll try to keep Shrimp 'N Grits a local phenomenon! It is the least we can do!)

micki said...

Tim Ball is a Canadian who is viewed by many as a paid promoter of the agenda of the oil and gas industry rather than as a practicing scientist.

Ball left his position at the University of Winnipeg for a more lucrative pursuit as a "scientific" gun-for-hire to debunk climate change.

If it wasn't climate change where he could rake in the dough, he (and his ilk) would be "consultants" supporting whatever initiatives their financial backers want them to endorse.

DEN, they don't care about their "reputation" -- they are all about MONEY!

Alan said...

"mmmm, grits"

And just with butter. No cheese or whatever else people put on 'em.

We have shrimp too. hehe We're both southern states, so I bet we have plenty of the same things.

Alan said...

I think you guys get the grits award. We don't have this...

The Hominy Grill

Saladin said...

WOW, I love it, doofus, such intellect! DEN, the company you keep! When someone disagrees with the cult they are DOOMED!! But I thought this was appropriate for this post.

Rocket Man

Best watch it, before the earth melts out from under you! Or Freezes, which ever is handiest for taxing you into oblivion.

Saladin said...

"If it wasn't climate change where he could rake in the dough, he (and his ilk) would be "consultants" supporting whatever initiatives their financial backers want them to endorse."
Dang Micki, the same could be said of Al the Goreicle and his many minions. I guess you must know this new climate fear is generating some serious bucks, and Gore isn't missing out. No matter what happens, we will pay, that I guarantee. Why are people so gullible?

Saladin said...

Yeh, but how much is it gonna cost?

False prophets of doom
Environmentalists would prefer that we forget these predictions

More well known fools

Creators Syndicate

Now that another Earth Day has come and gone, let's look at some environmentalist predictions that they would prefer we forget.

At the first Earth Day celebration, in 1969, environmentalist Nigel Calder warned, "The threat of a new ice age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of wholesale death and misery for mankind." C.C. Wallen of the World Meteorological Organization said, "The cooling since 1940 has been large enough and consistent enough that it will not soon be reversed."

In 1968, Paul Ehrlich, Vice President Gore's hero and mentor, predicted there would be a major food shortage in the U.S. and "in the 1970s ... hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death." Ehrlich said 65 million Americans would die of starvation between 1980 and 1989, and by 1999 the U.S. population would have declined to 22.6 million. Ehrlich's predictions about England were gloomier: "If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000."

World `likely to be ruined' by 2000

In 1972, a report was written for the Club of Rome warning the world would run out of gold by 1981, mercury and silver by 1985, tin by 1987 and petroleum, copper, lead and natural gas by 1992. Gordon Taylor, in his 1970 work "The Doomsday Book," said Americans were using 50 percent of the world's resources and "by 2000 they [Americans] will, if permitted, be using all of them." In 1975, the Environmental Fund took out full-page ads warning, "The World as we know it will likely be ruined by the year 2000."Harvard University biologist George Wald in 1970 warned, "... civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." That was the same year that Sen. Gaylord Nelson warned, in Look Magazine, that by 1995 "... somewhere between 75 and 85 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct."

It's not just latter-day doomsayers who have been wrong; doomsayers have always been wrong. In 1885, the U.S. Geological Survey announced there was "little or no chance" of oil being discovered in California, and a few years later they said the same about Kansas and Texas. In 1939, the U.S. Department of the Interior said American oil supplies would last only another 13 years. In 1949, the Secretary of the Interior said the end of U.S. oil supplies was in sight. Having learned nothing from its earlier erroneous claims, in 1974 the U.S. Geological Survey advised us that the U.S. had only a 10-year supply of natural gas. According to the American Gas Association, there's a 1,000 to 2,500 year supply.

Here are my questions: In 1970, when environmentalists were making predictions of manmade global cooling and the threat of an ice age and millions of Americans starving to death, what kind of government policy should we have undertaken to prevent such a calamity?

When Ehrlich predicted that England would not exist in the year 2000, what steps should the British Parliament have taken in 1970 to prevent such a dire outcome?

In 1939, when the U.S. Department of the Interior warned that we only had oil supplies for another 13 years, what actions should President Roosevelt have taken?

Why believe them this time?

Finally, what makes us think that environmental alarmism is any more correct now that they have switched their tune to manmade global warming?

A few facts: Over 95 percent of the greenhouse effect is the result of water vapor in Earth's atmosphere. Without the greenhouse effect, Earth's average temperature would be zero degrees Fahrenheit. Most climate change is a result of the orbital eccentricities of Earth and variations in the sun's output. And natural wetlands produce more greenhouse gas annually than all human sources combined.
We're definitely doomed, most likely by ignorance.