Wednesday, May 28, 2008

Idiot Yaks






Fox: Carter 'outing' of Israeli nukes helps Iran
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Tuesday May 27, 2008


Former President Jimmy Carter aroused concerns when he referred at a news conference on Sunday to Israel's possession of "150 or more" nuclear weapons.

Although Israel's nuclear program has long been an open secret, with most estimates of the total Israeli nuclear arsenal running between 100 and 250 warheads, the United States has generally respected Israel's demands for a policy of "ambiguity" on the matter.

However, the hosts of Fox & Friends were determined to find some way in which Carter had directly abetted US enemies. "Carter Outs Israel," proclaimed their banner. "Confirms country's nuke secrets."

"It appears that he's giving out secret information about Israel and how many nuclear weapons they may have," said host Gretchen Carlson. "According to most people, this information has never been made public before."

Brian Kilmeade added, "No one's done it ... so why not leave it to a former president, a one-term president like Jimmy Carter? ... He said, 'Well, Israel's got an arsenel, about 150.' Excuse me? We never heard that confirmed before. We've heard rumors about that."

"The extraordinary thing is a lot of people throughout the Mideast have assumed for a very long time that Israel had [nuclear weapons]," concluded Steve Doocy. "But nobody has ever said officially that they had it. So, here you have got this guy who was once upon a time the president of the United States doing just that. ... He has just helped Iran."

Despite Doocy's assertions, Carter is not the first high US official to 'out' Israel. When Secretary of Defense Robert Gates cited Israel as a nuclear power during his 2006 confirmation hearings, the Associated Press wrote, "Experts played down the importance of Gates' 'outing' of the Israeli nuclear weapons program. Defense analyst Shlomo Brom, a retired Israel Defense Forces general who was once in charge of strategic planning for the military, said similar statements came out of Washington during the first Gulf War in 1991 and did not lead to a change in Israeli policy."

@ RAW STORY

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FAUX NOOZ does it yet again, basically calling Jimmie a traitor for revealing Israels' secrets, OOOOOOO Bad Jimmie, bad?

BULLSHIT!

You go Jimmy!! Secret nukes? not likely. And while I'm at it since when is it OK for FAUX NOOZ to trash a 'one term' President while coddling the biggest bunch of criminals ever to hold the office?

Where, pray tell, did Israel get those nukes? No secret there Uncle Sam.

Governmentally speaking we and our com padre's are rotten lying scum and a danger to the world with our 'stockpile'. How many nukes does one need?

Enough for MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) so what is the point if we are all vaporized?

Stupid!

Go Jimmie! Just say NO to Nukes!

16 comments:

micki said...

To some extent, President Carter's statement about Israel's nuclear capabilities is MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING if it's taken in the context that Israel's policy of deliberate ambiguity is decades old. That Israel has nuclear capability is not new news.

Back in the 1960s Yitzhak Rabin informed the US State Dept that introducing nuclear weapons meant that the weapons would be tested and publicly declared. Possessing the weapons did not mean they were introducing them. (Go figure.)

Israeli PM Olmert (even if obliquely) admitted they had nukes in 2006, "Iran openly, explicitly and publicly threatens to write Israel off the map. Can you say that this is the same level when they are aspiring to have nuclear weapons as America, France, Israel, Russia?"

I like Jimmy Carter, but I'm not sure that his remark was useful -- was it his personal assessment or was he revealing intelligence he had access to as president? And what was his purpose?

His remark could potentially be used by Iran as a rationale to ratchet up a nuclear development program. But, let's hope that instead, it will assist as a deterrent.

Does John McCain meant it when he says he wants to work on nuclear disarmament?

David B. Benson said...

Micki --- Where ya'been?

micki said...

Dr. B, I've been otherwise occupied in California.

David B. Benson said...

Vandana Shiva: Why We Face Both Food and Water Crises

Also see:
Walden Bello
Manufacturing a Food Crisis
The Nation 2008 Jun 02, p. 16 ff.

which is amazingly incisive.

micki said...

George Monbiot intends to arrest John Bolton
as he comes off the stage after speaking at the Hay festival in Wales and to hand him over to the police.

Headed to The Hague?

Fingers crossed.

micki said...

Dr. B, have you seen a Wind Farm? Is there one in your neck of the woods? What do you think of their possibilities in the whole scheme of things?

micki said...

How biofuels could starve the poor -- 2007

Update to the above article -- 2008

From the CFR...oh no!

David B. Benson said...

Yes, I've seen one in California, outside of the little town of Mohave on the way to Backersfield.

Fortunately there is not enough steady wind right around here for a wind farm.

The United States, mostly the great plains down through panhandle Texas, has a great supply of wind. Don't even have to import some politicians. :-)

Vastly better than burning coal.

Saladin said...

The issue is not Israel and it's ambiguity, or even the fact that they have nuclear capability and have for some time now. It's the overt hypocrisy and double standards they are allowed, by the whole world, to get away with. Israel is the single whiniest state when it comes to it's demands that every Arab nation be subject to UN Resolutions, NPT agreements and endless invasive inspections while they enjoy total immunity from the very standards they hold the entire region to. What is it they feel the need to hide anyway? Why don't they just come right out and say, "yeah, we have nukes, so BACK OFF!" It's worked for the rest of us for 50 years. Why are they allowed to violate 70 UN Resolutions with impunity when Iraq is currently being reduced to rubble for a lot less? Why are we constantly rattling swords, at Israel's behest, against Syria, Lebanon, Iran and any one else who objects to Israeli aggression and occupation and actively fights in defense of their homes and lands? Why are defenders of life the terrorists while the murderers of the IOF are the poor innocent victims who must be preserved at any and all cost, including nuclear Armageddon? What is up with Israel anyway?? Why does this keep happening? And, why do our politicians give them a free pass no matter what kind of horrendous crimes against humanity they commit? What the FUCK is going on here? Are people totally blind?

David B. Benson said...

Here's the link to the Walden Bello piece:

Manufacturing a Food Crisis

Neither blaims biofuels. Both blaim failed World Bank and IMF policies.

Saladin said...

Two small examples of Israeli terrorism, this shit goes on day after day. Why is it allowed to continue? I know there are many brutal regimes in the world inflicting death and destruction on it's citizens, the only difference is they don't do it with the full moral and financial backing of the USA!

PCHR: Eighteen years of work destroyed in less than four hours

http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m44396&hd=&size=1&l=e

PCHR Narratives Under Siege

In order to highlight the impact of the siege and closure of the Gaza Strip on the civilian population, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR) is publishing a series of "Narratives Under Siege" on their website. These short articles are based on personal testimonies and experiences of life in the Gaza Strip, highlighting the restrictions, and violations, being imposed on the civilians of Gaza.

"They came at four in the morning, with two bulldozers, and they left before 8am. I own this chicken farm with my three brothers, and we worked day and night for eighteen years to build up our business. The Israelis destroyed everything in less then four hours."

Nasser Jaber’s chicken farm was bulldozed by the Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) ten days ago, in the early morning hours of May 16, while he was sleeping at home in Rafah, in the southern Gaza Strip. He still looks stunned. Wearily he guides us round the ruins of his eighteen-year business. "This was a lifetime project for me and my brothers" he says as we clamber over rubble, wire, shattered sheets of metal and thousands of putrefying chickens. "I have never belonged to any political faction, and I have never been to jail. I don’t know why they did this." The farm workers who are starting to clear some of the rubble are all wearing facemasks. Forty thousand dead chickens lie smashed amidst the rubble and the stench is sickening.

When his workers raised the alarm that the chicken farm was being bulldozed, Nasser Jaber didn’t rush out to the farm, but stayed at home, waiting until the Israelis had finally left. "It would have been too dangerous to come to the farm while they were destroying everything" he says. "This is not the first time the Israelis have been here. The [Israeli] border is only two and a half kilometers away, and they invade this area every month. They had already destroyed one of our walls, and then the water tanks. But nothing like this." One section of the chicken farm, a large barn containing 9,000 chickens, was spared the attack, though Nasser Jaber says the poultry are traumatized, and laying few eggs. The farm used to produce 45,000 eggs a day – now production is down to 2,000 eggs per day, and Nasser Jaber is worried the Israeli military may return to finish off what’s left of his farm. He estimates that between them, he and his brothers have already lost more than a million dollars. "I am a peaceful farmer" he says. "But they destroy our homes, our land - everything."

Abdul Halim Abu Samra, Head of Public Relations at the nearby Khan Yunis branch of the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights, says the IOF is systematically destroying farm land in the Gaza Strip, especially in border areas. "We have good fertile agricultural land in Gaza, but Palestinian farmers have been driven off their land in these border areas by intimidation and attacks like this. The land is now almost empty a kilometer before the eastern border, because it is too dangerous for people to live and work there."

As we drive north east towards Sofa Crossing (one of the eight crossings between Gaza and Israel) we see very few people, only an occasional elderly man leading a donkey and cart. These rural eastern border areas of the Gaza Strip are emptying, because farmers, many of whom have farmed here for generations, are now too frightened to live and work on their own land. The confines of the Gaza Strip, which is just forty kilometers long and ten kilometers wide, are being shrunk even further by relentless Israeli invasions.

The deliberate destruction of civilian property is illegal under international human rights law and humanitarian law, including the Fourth Geneva Convention (articles 33 and 53). Since the beginning of the second Intifada in September 2000, PCHR has documented the deliberate destruction of more than 40,000 donumms[1] of agricultural land in the Gaza Strip. This year alone, almost 3,000 donumms of agricultural land around Rafah and Khan Yunis have been destroyed by the Israeli military (including 500 donumms in the last seven days), ruining vegetable allotments and family owned farms, and contributing to the devastating economic destruction of the Gaza Strip.

Fifteen kilometers away from the remains of Nasser Jaber’s chicken farm, Mohammed Hamdan Abu Daggah is standing amidst the ruins of his cement factory, which lies four kilometers from Sofa Crossing, and was bulldozed by the IOF three days ago, on May 24. "I started this business in January 2007" he says. "My family invested everything in this factory. We managed to import good equipment under license, and we had lots of work from local clients, and the United Nations here in Gaza. But the Israelis arrived in three bulldozers, and they tore up everything." Abu Daggah’s factory was employing forty local men who now have no jobs. Like Nasser Jaber, Abu Daggah says he has no idea why his business was targeted. "I have never been in any trouble and have never been arrested. They had absolutely no reason to do this – but now we have nothing left, except heavy debts that we cannot afford to pay."

One third of those banned from travel for treatment are children

http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m44381&hd=&size=1&l=e

children
Palestinian Information Center

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May 27, 2008

GAZA, (PIC)-- The popular committee against the siege stated Monday that 31 percent of Gaza patients whose travel for medical treatment abroad was not approved by the IOA for flimsy security pretexts are children under age 15.

In a press conference, Rami Abdo, the spokesman for the committee, said that this percentage does not include hundreds of patients who did not apply for medical treatment outside Gaza because they already know that Israel would reject their requests.

Abdo cited the suffering of a two-year-old Palestinian girl called Farah Al-Sawwaf who has a tumor in her right kidney and her application for treatment abroad was not approved yet by the IOA.

The spokesman also pointed to the suffering of another two-year-old child called Mohamed Bulbul who had the same serious disease of Farah, but he now urgently needs to receive radiotherapy within 10 days after he underwent surgery days ago or else he will die.

The health ministry in Gaza strongly denounced Monday the silence of Arab and Islamic countries towards the culture of death and murder exercised by the Israeli occupation against the Palestinian people, warning that there are hundreds of patients in Gaza who are threatened with death because of the Israeli siege.

In a statement received by the PIC, the ministry stated that in less than 24 hours, the number of Israeli siege victims rose to 165 after two Palestinian twin infants Fayza and Sujoud Al-Fara joined the death list.
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Unfortunately I can't post any pictures here, but they are horrendous, I've seen so many. I know most people couldn't care less, as Alan pointed out I should move there since it is my prime concern, it obviously isn't any kind of concern to him as it isn't for everyone living in the bubble.

David B. Benson said...

I don't agree with the updated report from the Council on Foreign Relations.

Read the section of Bello's article on the defiance in Africa. Some countries there decided to do what the US and Europe do, not what the Friedmanesque World Bank and IMF said to do. That works.

The failed noncon, so-called "free trade" policies do not.

DEN said...

We all share responsibility to fight against violence whether it be Gaza or Compton.

People are killing for no reason and that must stop if we are to advance as a civilization.

Maybe it is supposed to be like this to rot the core of humanity and settle some bet by non-Earthers that humanity would not survive.

So wrong, so very wrong.

DEN said...

Scotty not the fav he used to be around the WH I see.

WAPO had a story on the exodus taking place early in the chimps world, key positions being filled by who-knows-who.

GAWD!

David B. Benson said...

Oh, I agree with the CFR update that making ethanol from corn is a bad idea. And from the prior two reports, I'll say that doing so has impacted Mexico's food prices. Further, all these Freidmanesque policies, including those in Mexico, probably has helped create the 'illegals' problem.

Regarding Israel, it is the Likud party (in power) with the terrible policies regading Palestine. But also other Israelites. I'll opine that they, too, have been caught up in a particularly mad form for Freidmanism, far from traditional Jewish values.

Carey said...

Welcome home, Micki!

Too busy to think these days.